i have absolutley no use for it....

[keleko]

but i want it!

just saw a commercial for the "new buick lacerne"

it shows (hah) HEATED WASHER FLUID


somebody gimmie a how-to, even though i'll never have a use for it in SFL (boom07)

 

[thefatman]

I wonder about that heated fluid also.

Isn't it dangerous to spray hot water on a frozen window?

 

[Mr. Win]

Its been discussed...
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123617690

 

[lasermp5]

Spraying warm fluid... this sounds a little dirty (bj)

 

[mobomelter]

goldwing they didn't expressely discuss the warming washer fluid. they started to go off into other random things. and i agree with thefatman seems like that could crack the windshield.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

glad to know i am not the only one thinking about this...

i've been working on a prototype system for the protege and have halted development on the same assumption we're all making, that it could potentially crack the windshield.

 

[mobomelter]

theres one way to test it..... find a junkyard or a friend who has a car that doesn't matter and pour hot water on the windshield when its really cold. in fact i might be able to arrange it.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

theres one way to test it..... find a junkyard or a friend who has a car that doesn't matter and pour hot water on the windshield when its really cold. in fact i might be able to arrange it.

GM may have used a different glass or treated the glass in a way so that it will not crack when hot watre is applied. the washer pump and lines likely must also be treated or of a different material to work with that temperature of water.

 

[mobomelter]

thats true. unfortunatley i don't the money to try it on my windshield or else i would. unless i can find a wrecked mz3 in a junkyard which won't be happening anytime soon.

 

[goldwing2000]

goldwing they didn't expressely discuss the warming washer fluid. they started to go off into other random things. and i agree with thefatman seems like that could crack the windshield.

Who you talkin' bout, Willis? I just got here.

Anyway... Mercedes has has heated washwer nozzles for decades.

 

[goldwing2000]

the washer pump and lines likely must also be treated or of a different material to work with that temperature of water.

If it's like the German systems, the heaters are right in the nozzles and it heats it on the way out. No special pumps or lines necessary.

 

[jred321]

since it sprays in a mist (lots of surface area on the water droplets) won't it be cold by the time it hits your windshield anyways? and i would imagine it's not "hot" but "warm" or "not freezing", so i wouldn't think there would be a cracking problem (except maybe on the protege where a warm day is enough to crack the windshield. twice.)

 

[goldwing2000]

The Buick ads claim 140. I don't know if that's at the nozzle or the window, though.
That's about 10-20 more than most tap water.

 

[jred321]

what the hell do you need washer fluid for that hot? if you want to melt the ice, get the deicer fluid. simple enough

 

[Mazda3ofKent]

the buick most likely has a treated windshield, I would not try it on a mazda winsd shiled extream heat changes will crack it

 

[Captain KRM P5]

If it's like the German systems, the heaters are right in the nozzles and it heats it on the way out. No special pumps or lines necessary.

the lucerne uses a heater assembly in-line aftr the tank/pump module. GM part number for the heater is 25759585. its hard to decipher from the illustration what exactly the part consists of. we're thinking something like a looped metal line with a conductive coil around it.

as for the water cooling down as soon as it leaves the nozzles, that would not be the case i would think. water retains its temperature as it leaves your showerhead in a spray pattern at what we can assume is a similar velocity (it hits your body warm/hot, et al). therefore, i believe that should also apply in this case.

they do list the windshield in GM's catalog as "pulse moisture sensitive". the windshield also lists at $530 so one can assume that it is specially treated or designed for this application.

 

[thefatman]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Windshield-Wipe...ryZ14932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Here is a aftermarket one.

It claims to heat the water to 90f, but does not address the hot water on a frozen windshield question.

 

[Newf]

If you are in Canada, you can get these at Canadian Tire.

 

[goldwing2000]

what the hell do you need washer fluid for that hot? if you want to melt the ice, get the deicer fluid. simple enough

Deicer fluid is bad for rubber and paint.

 

[RedDragon]

If you are in Canada, you can get these at Canadian Tire.

Ya, I just saw the commercial the other night....

Have you seen their new wipers?!