Hypertech Max Energy Sport CAI Update Now Available!

[MSMS3]

Gonna have to ask Hypertech that question.

But the mechanical realities of the way a higher flowing downpipe opens up the exhaust side means that you should be seeing 1-2 pounds more boost just from the catless downpipe, even on the stock tune. You should be spooling up a bit quicker and building a bit more boost with that alone. If you are not, the problem may lie elsewhere than with your tuning map, perhaps a boost leak somewhere? Maybe check all your tubes and vacuum lines?

I just don't know.

 

[boosted1]

Gonna have to ask Hypertech that question.

Maybe check all your tubes and vacuum lines?

That sounds like a good place to start! With all that boost, some tube may have loosened . Try checking BPV tubes,the TIP and SRI connections.

 

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

? For guys other than me with, I was seeing 20 PSI drove the car today and saw nothing but 15 PSI. It was colder today than Sunday when I made the runs, I also was seeing 20 PSI on Monday?? Do you guys think the ECU adapted and put the boost back to stock? I'm at a loss..

Let me start by apologizing up front. I have a rep in certain circles for being a jackass who likes to pick on other people's use (or abuse) of the language, but I'm really not trying to criticize here.

What were you trying to say in the first few words of this post? "? For guys other than me with, ".
I'm old and a little intoxicated and I cannot figure this out.

 

[anm6]

No worries man, I type these at work, An sometimes I type to fast.. LOL I was just saying guys with the flash other than me.. I did check the boost tubes and vac lines eveything is tight Nothing came loose. I may see if I can find a boost leak tester tho.

Ok so here it is I uninstalled it yesterday and then reinstalled and nothing same thing,, Nothing over 15 PSI I saw a quick spike to 17ish hitting 3rd but only 1-2 times the whole day , So I uninstalled it again last night and ran stock, Same Boost levels 15PSI A/F is back to 11.3( Hypertech was 10.8-10.5 WOT 3rd and 4th gear pulls) I tried emailing Chris and got NO reply.. I'm going to call them today and see whats up..I'm not really happy..

 

[MSMS3]

If you are able to develop and hold at least 15 pounds of boost in third gear and higher with the tuner removed, then you can probably stop chasing boost or vacuum leaks, but I'm still a bit curious why you are not seeing 17-18 and some spikes above that with a catless dp/rp.

What was your typical boost for your mods before Hypertech tune? If removing it results in restoring that typical boost, whatever it was, then you need customer support from Hypertech as to what may be going on with their tune not giving you anything better than stock tune.

 

[anm6]

I was seeing 15 PSI before the hypertech was installed, went up to 19-20PSI for 4 days and now back to 15 psi. I do hit 15 PSI in all gears. I did some 5th and 6th gear pulls late last night( Yes over 3k RPMS) and hit 15 PSI. I have only seen spikes in 3rd but I do not see that all the time. Also the A/F went back to 11.3 instead of 10.5-10.8 with the hypertech. Still do not know why the Flash would have just disappeared?

I have called hypertech twice now and still can not get a hold of Chris. They said he was away on a business trip an was to be back around 10 am CT time. I will be calling them again in bit.

 

[Hypnotized]

Is he in CT? or is it you thats in CT?

 

[anm6]

Oh Sorry LOL He is in the Central time zone, I'm on the east coast Boston, Not to far from you..

Also just got off the phone with Chris, Really helpful BTW.. I will need to call him with the serial # of my tuner and he is going to see if he can get a update or download for it. He also said I may have to change my intake choice from Corksport to CE-P SRI. He said they will definitely help me figure this out and also apologized for not responding to my PM's, As he was out of town, Hopefully he jumps in here to.

 

[boosted1]

Oh Sorry LOL He is in the Central time zone, I'm on the east coast Boston, Not to far from you..

Also just got off the phone with Chris, Really helpful BTW.. I will need to call him with the serial # of my tuner and he is going to see if he can get a update or download for it. He also said I may have to change my intake choice from Corksport to CE-P SRI. He said they will definitely help me figure this out and also apologized for not responding to my PM's, As he was out of town, Hopefully he jumps in here to.

I just checked and there an update available. 2 files were written to the tuner.

 

[anm6]

Hmm promising news, Where did you check, Where on their web page?

 

[boosted1]

Hmm promising news, Where did you check, Where on their web page?

Through the Tuner Update Application software.

 

[anm6]

I had to download a file before I flashed it.. So there is another one I'll have to check when I get home.

 

[MSMS3]

Thanks for the data. While the numbers look way off what absolutes would be with more accurate telemetry, they are valid when compared to each other. Yes, one second knocked off 0-100 times is very significant.

I'd say maybe a bit more than 20 whp gain, but that should have been a bit more than your quarter mile differential of .16 seconds.

I'd also not pay much attention to the 0-60 differential other than to note that it got better, because these cars are so difficult to launch consistently from a standing start without a lot of practice, and even then.

It's for that reason that 60-100 mph seems a lot more consistent and repeatable for tuning purposes for me.

That cell phone software seems to be way too slow. Bone stock with restrictive intake and all, the US spec MS3 does 0-100 in 13.8 seconds, according to Car and Driver and typical 0-60's are more more typically in 5.7 second range or a bit better. 60ft's should be no higher than 2.4's.

But, even though your measurements are probably not accurate from an absolute perspective, they are good for comparisons, if you can repeat them and get close to the same thing each time.

It does look like the tune picked up 20-25 hp though with your mods. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Chris@Hypertech]

Hey Chris,
Does the programmer disable the boost cut you get when the wheels are turned? And if so, is that separate setting from the 1st/2nd gear boost cut?

I can see an advantage to having the controlled acceleration, but more power out of the corners.

I find it annoying to hit the gas out of the corner and then wait for the power until the steering wheel hits a certain angle.

We didn't experience any power delay with our tuning while cornering. Acceleration is smooth under hard cornering. You may be encountering some traction control if you're getting wheelspin while cornering, which will cut the power back quite significantly. But it won't feel like a delay. We tune out the factory throttle delay, which may be the biggest help to what your experiencing.

 

[Chris@Hypertech]

Oh Sorry LOL He is in the Central time zone, I'm on the east coast Boston, Not to far from you..

Also just got off the phone with Chris, Really helpful BTW.. I will need to call him with the serial # of my tuner and he is going to see if he can get a update or download for it. He also said I may have to change my intake choice from Corksport to CE-P SRI. He said they will definitely help me figure this out and also apologized for not responding to my PM's, As he was out of town, Hopefully he jumps in here to.

Sorry for the delay in replying. I just got back in the office today. I've been out of town since Friday. We'll figure out what's going on with your car.

As far as the updates go, the revisions that have been released since your last update have only been for new calibration support. Those updates would have no effect on your car, since your stock calibration hasn't changed.

 

[anm6]

OK talk to Chris yesterday after I got out of work. I gave him the number of my tuner and he will get an update flash for my tuner so they can read my ECU-to the tuners files and make sure everything loaded properly. I also reinstalled the flash with the CP-E Nano intake and car went back acting like it was flashed.. Boost went back to 20 PSI but tapers off to 17 PSI, A/F went back to 10.5-10.8 so car is pulling hard again. But we will see how this goes over the next few days.

 

[boosted1]

OK talk to Chris yesterday after I got out of work. I gave him the number of my tuner and he will get an update flash for my tuner so they can read my ECU-to the tuners files and make sure everything loaded properly. I also reinstalled the flash with the CP-E Nano intake and car went back acting like it was flashed.. Boost went back to 20 PSI but tapers off to 17 PSI, A/F went back to 10.5-10.8 so car is pulling hard again. But we will see how this goes over the next few days.

The way it's going now,seems to be better for the engine. I'm sure the catless DP is giving that extra 1-2 psi over what I'm getting.

 

[anm6]

Yea I just hope it holds, An I do not have to do this again in 4 days.. LOL I'm sure Chris will get this thing straitened out for me.

 

[boosted1]

Yea I just hope it holds, An I do not have to do this again in 4 days.. LOL I'm sure Chris will get this thing straitened out for me.

I'm sure your issue will be resolved.

 

[Stamperman]

We didn't experience any power delay with our tuning while cornering. Acceleration is smooth under hard cornering. You may be encountering some traction control if you're getting wheelspin while cornering, which will cut the power back quite significantly. But it won't feel like a delay. We tune out the factory throttle delay, which may be the biggest help to what your experiencing.

Hi Chris,
On the MS3 there is an optical encoder on the steering shaft that is used to cut boost when the wheels are turned beyond certain angles. What I'm asking is if your programmer defeats that.

It's not defeated by the traction control switch, so it works all the time.

Thanks!