How long do OEM tires last?

[yrwei52]

It must be a road surface related. My A23's are at 7/32 with 22K miles (35K KM). The Michelin's are definitely an option when I need to replace mine though...

OEM Toyo A23 225/55R19 99V tire is rated 300AA on UTQG. The rough guideline for me is a tire should last 30,000 miles with 300 treadwear, 60,000 miles with 600 treadwear. I'd expect our OEM A23 is a very soft tire with today's tire standard where others mostly have 600 treadwear on UTQG, and its tread life is about 30,000 miles.

Toyo A23 has 9.8/32" tread depth when new according to the spec. But I did measure them when new. It was 9/32" at most however I measured it.

At 9,321 miles, the OEM Toyo A23's on our 2016 AWD CX-5 have about 7/32" tread depth left. Our CX-5 drives mostly in town and the rate of tire wear on these A23's is average comparing to other tires we've used. With this rate, 2/32" for 9,321 miles, I believe our A23 tires should be able to live up to my expectation, close to 30,000 miles of tread life to 2/32" minimum tread depth.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

My Michelin Primacy MXV4s on my Infiniti have a 620 treadware

and at 39K miles... started at 11/32 (new) for tread and when I checked last month still at 8/32 so those tires are wearing far better as well.

 

[kdaug]

OEM Toyo A23 225/55R19 99V tire is rated 300AA on UTQG. The rough guideline for me is a tire should last 30,000 miles with 300 treadwear, 60,000 miles with 600 treadwear. I'd expect our OEM A23 is a very soft tire with today's tire standard where others mostly have 600 treadwear on UTQG, and its tread life is about 30,000 miles.

Toyo A23 has 9.8/32" tread depth when new according to the spec. But I did measure them when new. It was 9/32" at most however I measured it.

At 9,321 miles, the OEM Toyo A23's on our 2016 AWD CX-5 have about 7/32" tread depth left. Our CX-5 drives mostly in town and the rate of tire wear on these A23's is average comparing to other tires we've used. With this rate, 2/32" for 9,321 miles, I believe our A23 tires should be able to live up to my expectation, close to 30,000 miles of tread life to 2/32" minimum tread depth.

I am at ~15,000 miles and 5/32" on my A23's. This is not good considering that I don't think that I am an aggressive driver. I get the tire pressure checked every few months so wear should be more consistent with others. Regardless, I'll never go back to A23's in the future. It's time to move on to a MUCH better tire, which will be just about anything, but I have my eye on the Michelin Premier LTX's as soon as they come out in June, and they are in my size and speed rating.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

I am at ~15,000 miles and 5/32" on my A23's. This is not good considering that I don't think that I am an aggressive driver. I get the tire pressure checked every few months so wear should be more consistent with others. Regardless, I'll never go back to A23's in the future. It's time to move on to a MUCH better tire, which will be just about anything, but I have my eye on the Michelin Premier LTX's as soon as they come out in June, and they are in my size and speed rating.

What are you running for tire pressure? I've always run mine at 38 psi /262 kPa

I don't personally have any complaints about the A23s but replacement costs are a show stopper for me since there equal or greater alternatives for far less.

IIRC.. the only other vehicle that uses these stock are the Dodge Journey.

 

[yrwei52]

I am at ~15,000 miles and 5/32" on my A23's. This is not good considering that I don't think that I am an aggressive driver. I get the tire pressure checked every few months so wear should be more consistent with others. Regardless, I'll never go back to A23's in the future. It's time to move on to a MUCH better tire, which will be just about anything, but I have my eye on the Michelin Premier LTX's as soon as they come out in June, and they are in my size and speed rating.

So your Toyo A23's still have 5/32" tread left and you should be able to drive at least another 10,000 miles to see the wear bars on the tread. I don't really consider your A23's are "almost" worn out which means your tread depth is near 2/32". Toyo A23 has soft rubber hence it wear out a lot faster than others. It lists 300 treadwear on UTQG so it does its job like it supposed to be on treadwear. That's why I don't consider it's a "bad" tire because I've seen many sporty tires with even lower 220 treadwear including Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 mounted on our BMW 528i. Of course the price on A23 is too high for the replacement so I'd not consider it as the future set of tires for our CX-5!

I run at least 38 psi for our 19" road tires.

 

[kdaug]

What are you running for tire pressure? I've always run mine at 38 psi /262 kPa

I don't personally have any complaints about the A23s but replacement costs are a show stopper for me since there equal or greater alternatives for far less.

IIRC.. the only other vehicle that uses these stock are the Dodge Journey.

I run 36 psi as specified on the CX-5 GT door sticker. Why would you up the PSI to 38 psi?

Yep, at $268/tire that I was quoted tor the A23 it won't be on my shortlist!!

 

[kdaug]

So your Toyo A23's still have 5/32" tread left and you should be able to drive at least another 10,000 miles to see the wear bars on the tread. I don't really consider your A23's are "almost" worn out which means your tread depth is near 2/32". Toyo A23 has soft rubber hence it wear out a lot faster than others. It lists 300 treadwear on UTQG so it does its job like it supposed to be on treadwear. That's why I don't consider it's a "bad" tire because I've seen many sporty tires with even lower 220 treadwear including Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 mounted on our BMW 528i. Of course the price on A23 is too high for the replacement so I'd not consider it as the future set of tires for our CX-5! I run at least 38 psi for our 19" road tires.

With 3/32 left until I get down to the wear bars I'd be delighted to get 10,000 more miles until then....so here's hoping. No long trips I guess, just to be on the safe side. You're the second person on this thread who is running 38 psi on their GT. What is your rationale for this when the door sticker says 36 psi?

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

It can't hurt on the MPG and tires have been wearing evenly across. I have never done my own thermal tests but I have heard tires will also run a bit cooler slightly overinflated as there is less flexing. Tradeoff...is the subjective harsher ride.

 

[yrwei52]

With 3/32 left until I get down to the wear bars I'd be delighted to get 10,000 more miles until then....so here's hoping. No long trips I guess, just to be on the safe side. You're the second person on this thread who is running 38 psi on their GT. What is your rationale for this when the door sticker says 36 psi?

So you actually have 3/32" tread left, not 5/32" as you mentioned earlier? I did check A23's on ours when they're new, the tread depth was 9/32" at most although the spec says 9.8/32"!

Why many people run 2 psi or more over the spec? For me it's from experience through trail and error. I found most factory specs are too low for tire pressure. The tires are wearing outer treads most of time if I use factory specs. I put 35 psi for our '98 Honda CR-V for even wear on tread although the spec says 26 psi! Besides, all factory specs for tire pressure are for cold tires, there're too many factors, even the sun, causing the tire pressure to raise when you measure it. If you look at the tire pressure specs from Euro cars, they will have wide ranges for different load and speed.

 

[kdaug]

So you actually have 3/32" tread left, not 5/32" as you mentioned earlier? I did check A23's on ours when they're new, the tread depth was 9/32" at most although the spec says 9.8/32"!

Why many people run 2 psi or more over the spec? For me it's from experience through trail and error. I found most factory specs are too low for tire pressure. The tires are wearing outer treads most of time if I use factory specs. I put 35 psi for our '98 Honda CR-V for even wear on tread although the spec says 26 psi! Besides, all factory specs for tire pressure are for cold tires, there're too many factors, even the sun, causing the tire pressure to raise when you measure it. If you look at the tire pressure specs from Euro cars, they will have wide ranges for different load and speed.

Yes, 3/32" left to get down to the wear bars. I have nitrogen in my tires which supposedly reduces the amount of expansion of the "air" in tires due to heat. So, for me adding a couple of pounds may be beneficial. Even at the recommended pressure of 36 psi I wouldn't say that the wear has been uneven, but if a few more lbs could help extend my treadlife I'd definitely try it.

 

[craigo]

Yes, 3/32" left to get down to the wear bars. I have nitrogen in my tires which supposedly reduces the amount of expansion of the "air" in tires due to heat. So, for me adding a couple of pounds may be beneficial. Even at the recommended pressure of 36 psi I wouldn't say that the wear has been uneven, but if a few more lbs could help extend my treadlife I'd definitely try it.

No it doesn't. It's a gas that obeys the same laws of physics as every other gas does. Temp goes up, pressure goes up. Nitrogen sources are dry, which means it won't have water to change phases as the tire heats up, but this contributes a negligible amount of pressure change. For people that don't require stability measured in fractions of psi, nitrogen in tires is a waste of money.

 

[yrwei52]

Yes, 3/32" left to get down to the wear bars. I have nitrogen in my tires which supposedly reduces the amount of expansion of the "air" in tires due to heat. So, for me adding a couple of pounds may be beneficial. Even at the recommended pressure of 36 psi I wouldn't say that the wear has been uneven, but if a few more lbs could help extend my treadlife I'd definitely try it.

Ha nitrogen. Costco gives you that for free too. Once I saw a comparison test made by a Chinese car guy with regular air and nitrogen in his tires. He found no difference between the two! But for some reason I'd like to use Discount Tire next to our Costco. I feel Discount Tire is more specialized for tires with better mounting and balancing equipments. They can always match the price from Costco, and special order any tires I want even if they don't carry it.

I like Continental TrueContact for its good reviews and price although they only come with H rated. I'd not want very high mileage warranty as tire ages and tire manufactures now even suggest don't use tires over 6 years old! Last time I used T rated tires on our CR-V which specifies H, Discount Tire had no problems of doing it. Factory spec for CX-5 on 17" tire is H, there's no reason we have to use V-rated 19" tire. I doubt the maximum speed on CX-5 can reach 130 mph anyway.

Michelin Premier LTX you found is a very good alternative for our 19" people. I'd consider it when we need a new set of tires if the price is competitive.

 

[kdaug]

Ha nitrogen. Costco gives you that for free too. Once I saw a comparison test made by a Chinese car guy with regular air and nitrogen in his tires. He found no difference between the two! But for some reason I'd like to use Discount Tire next to our Costco. I feel Discount Tire is more specialized for tires with better mounting and balancing equipments. They can always match the price from Costco, and special order any tires I want even if they don't carry it.

I like Continental TrueContact for its good reviews and price although they only come with H rated. I'd not want very high mileage warranty as tire ages and tire manufactures now even suggest don't use tires over 6 years old! Last time I used T rated tires on our CR-V which specifies H, Discount Tire had no problems of doing it. Factory spec for CX-5 on 17" tire is H, there's no reason we have to use V-rated 19" tire. I doubt the maximum speed on CX-5 can reach 130 mph anyway.

Michelin Premier LTX you found is a very good alternative for our 19" people. I'd consider it when we need a new set of tires if the price is competitive.

I read good reports about the best balancing done on Hunter Road Force equipment. But I believe it is best for low profile tires(45 or less) and vehicles that have persistent vibration problems after conventional balancing. Maybe Discount Tire has this equipment. But, there is often an extra charge for using this balancer as it takes longer and involves breaking down the tire and shifting it around the rim to help correct problems. There is a D.T. shop in my neck of the woods but I have yet to get quotes on tires from them.

Since Pirelli I believe is the only tire manufacturer that won't warranty a tire if you go down a speed rating(V down to H for me for the P7's), that gives me the opportunity to consider the H rated TrueContact, which like you, I have read good reports on. I still plan to hold out for more reports from CX-5 users on the Michelin Premier LTX and then make my decision this June when the 225/55/19 99V's come on the market. I'd hold out for the usual Michelin $70 rebate per set that Costco offers every few months.

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

I did a rotation last week and my OEM Toyo A23 225/55R19 are at 6/32 all around at 30K miles. 9.8/32 is new tread depth.

 

[yrwei52]

I did a rotation last week and my OEM Toyo A23 225/55R19 are at 6/32 all around at 30K miles. 9.8/32 is new tread depth.

With 38 psi tire pressure, 2 psi more than recommended pressure. This means higher than factory recommended tire pressure is good for tread life.

 

[erhayes]

My Yokohama 225/65/17s lasted about 35,000 to the wear bars. My driving style gave this millage using 35 psig overnight cold. ed

 

[Kedis82ZE8]

With 38 psi tire pressure, 2 psi more than recommended pressure. This means higher than factory recommended tire pressure is good for tread life.

Yes... I run 38 psi

 

[shinjyo]

I run factory 34 psi all round on the yokohama on our 13 touring. We are at 36k miles and I think it's left 35%.

 

[sully1983]

Hey all. I own a 2014 CX-5 Grand Touring FWD (purchased August 2013). I live in Austin, TX. Year round heat for the most part. I have 33,000 miles on the vehicle and my Toyo A23s are already in the red and I'm told they need to be replaced. Dealer tried to sell me new ones at $359/pc with a discount if I buy all 4... I asked if there was a warranty on the tire and he said no. My reply was "Sir, respectfully, why the hell would I purchase these tires again when they didn't even last 40,000 miles and are $200 more than a better tire?" He changed the subject without a response. I am interested in the Nitto NT 421q tires. The warranty and tread rating look great. Anyone have these on a GT and can provide some feedback?

 

[yrwei52]

Hey all. I own a 2014 CX-5 Grand Touring FWD (purchased August 2013). I live in Austin, TX. Year round heat for the most part. I have 33,000 miles on the vehicle and my Toyo A23s are already in the red and I'm told they need to be replaced. Dealer tried to sell me new ones at $359/pc with a discount if I buy all 4... I asked if there was a warranty on the tire and he said no. My reply was "Sir, respectfully, why the hell would I purchase these tires again when they didn't even last 40,000 miles and are $200 more than a better tire?" He changed the subject without a response. I am interested in the Nitto NT 421q tires. The warranty and tread rating look great. Anyone have these on a GT and can provide some feedback?

Don't get tires from car dealers but from tire stores. I like Discount Tire which has excellent tire changing and balancing equipment, and offers many free tire service and easy-to-apply prorated mileage warranty. Even Costco is better getting tires than car dealers!

Personally I'd choose Continental TrueContact or General AltiMAX RT43 for my replacement when the time comes due to their excellent reviews、light weight、high UTQG、51-psi maximum inflation pressure、and long mileage warranty. Nitto NT421Q is a 103V extra-load tire which may be a little stiffer than other 99H/V standard-load tires.

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