The car is very bottled up, at 7psi with this sized turbo I expect to see numbers close to 185 at the wheels on proper tuning. If the intake adds this much, a real exhaust and some chilled flow may help it out some more. I'm looking along the lines of taking over the computer management myself to bring real power to the car.
How fast is a MSP
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twiztedjeckel
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wow, such optimism from somebody who doesn't even own one. glad to hear it. i'm also going to be glad to see you eat those words when it is done.
I don't even have to own one to know more about it than you. Don't be so sure of yourself. I've probably forgotten more about the Protege than you will ever know about it. And I know, with that tiny turbo, you will never see 185 to the wheels with the current intercooler and exhaust. PERIOD
Be cool, twiztedjeckel. BigBen's a realist, (OK, maybe a bit pessimistic) but I don't blame him for that for all the trouble he's gone through with his MP3.
And I think I'm with BigBen. The stock turbo on the MSP has to be warrantied by Mazda, so they ain't gonna put anything on that will break the engine (read conservative). If you want more power, you might want to go with some of the other turbo kits out there and maybe even some nitrous if you don't mind voiding your warranty...there was a whole 'nuther thread on this.
And I think I'm with BigBen. The stock turbo on the MSP has to be warrantied by Mazda, so they ain't gonna put anything on that will break the engine (read conservative). If you want more power, you might want to go with some of the other turbo kits out there and maybe even some nitrous if you don't mind voiding your warranty...there was a whole 'nuther thread on this.
I-Am-Chris
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A T25 is capable of that horsepower and much more. Same turbo silvas come with.
tritonheat1
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\big_ben said:
Man don't hate on turboge, I'm pretty sure he will know about turbo/ mazdas then you ever will. Just b/c you are tired of the MP3" and it not holding it's value Doesn't mean you have to bash on the MSP owners now do you,
Take a chill pill bro, i know for a fact that turboge knows alot more than you would knowing the capabilities of the MSP- or even Turboed cars(owned) he's just stating that it's possible if it has the right tuning.I'm with big_ben, and I will kindly duck to avoid anything coming tritonheat1's way...
It would be plain silly to try to increase the MSP's power via ECU tuning/raising boost without first addressing the exhaust and downpipe. Also, lower intake temps=more HP so a bigger IC is a no-brainer too.
It would be plain silly to try to increase the MSP's power via ECU tuning/raising boost without first addressing the exhaust and downpipe. Also, lower intake temps=more HP so a bigger IC is a no-brainer too.
big_ben said:
I'm not talking about upping the boost to obtain useless power.
There is no need to up the boost level to 10psi to reach 185whp.
I'm going to blow a rod or a piston at 10psi? Wow, did you already do this? Whats going on with the FM kit on there putting out those numbers? Geeze I didn't know I should be so scared of boosting such a fragile engine......I better call up mazda and tell them their design is wrong and they will start blowing up cars soon.
Tell me Big Ben, what is the current setup that the MSP has? What is the piping diameter entering and exiting the intercooler, and what is the flow rate and maximum thermal efficiency of it? Also, what is the size of the downpipe, and exhaust piping throughout the car? What is the size of the compressor wheel, exhaust wheel, and what are the A/R's on them?
I mean seriously, do you think you know enough to even tell me that this is impossible. You're full of s***, and you get the :bs: .
Let me put this into perspective. My 1.8 Protege with a tiny little VJ-20 turbo on it, put out a healthy 200whp and 200lb-ft only running 8.5psi. Now look at the stock engine running only 125hp at the crank, and 117lb-ft... You're telling me I can't get similar numbers off of more displacement, a larger turbo, and ecu tuning?
Drop the attitude and backup your statements. No one likes an asshole who talks s*** all the time, especially in a community where people are going out of their way to test out new products and develop an aftermarket for people like you.
