Hot off the presses!!!!

crempel said:
I am actually interested in the Mazda5. Is the new 2.5 going to find its way to that model?

Probably not until the 2009 model year.
 
Any details about what other package changes are coming such as what new standard features and option will be available? I'm glad that I haven't bought the CX9 yet since there are lots of changes coming. I really like the new rear-view mirror/back-up camera monitor and blind spot sensor.
 
The engine in the current CX-9 seems to be fine 263HP.. and a Japanese transmission..

DBlock12 said:
HI, I am new to this forum.
I got the cx-7 5 month ago and very happy with it, but it's missing a lot of little things which counts. I am thinking of trading my cx-7 to cx-9.
I saw it on NY auto show and I'm in love, the only stoping point for me is the 3.5L ford engine.
From my knowledge the 3.0L DOHC (the earlier type) was a disaster!!!
Is it safe to say that Ford maybe did this 3.5L betterr?
And also the new 3.7L engine, is it Ford upgrade of 3.5L or it's a Mazda engine?
Thanks!
 
My understanding from my sources is that the 3.7L engine is full Mazda...

This is what has been stopping me from getting one for the wife, full Mazda cars seem to do much better :)
 
Mazda3 said:
Production starts in June for the 08 model. Ordering is usually about 3 months ahead so this should be soon. The 3.7L will be the standard engine on all models. Please don't tell your dealer where you got the info. The more low key we keep my updates the easier it will be for me to share with the group.

I've been looking at getting a CX-9 until I stumbled upon this post about the new 3.7L engine. I'm sure you can't divulge too much info, but is this the GTTDI engine that Mazda has been testing in the Fusion or is this the Ford sourced Duratec 3.7L that is basically a bored out 3.5 motor that is currently in the Edge and CX-9? From what I've read/heard, both will have direct injection but the 3.7L from Ford is only "supposed" to have 275hp or so. I'm just curious as to the engine specs as I'm anxious to put my order in for an 08 CX-9. My friend at Ford is on the mustang side but she's going to try to research the 3.7L Lincoln motor that is coming out soon.

Also, any indications that Mazda will allow you to order the Moonroof package with the Rear DVD entertainment package? I really don't get why they didn't engineer this correctly. Lastly, will they push the "mysync" navigation system in the 08 models?

Thanks!
JP
 
The engine is derived from the Duratec 3.5L. This is not a bad thing. The fact that this is a Ford engine is because Ford paid for the development. There were Mazda and Volvo engineers involved with its development as well. This engine is on the Wards top ten list, it is state of the art technology. There are NO Honda, Acura, Toyota, or Lexus engines on the Wards list.

The top end of the motor is redone for the Mazda motors, by Mazda engineers. Read the reviews, they all comment on how much smoother, quieter, and more responsive the CX-9 is compared to the Edge. The Duratec is good motor in the Ford and a great motor in the Mazda.

Mazda has not released the final production HP/TQ specs yet, I will post them as soon as I have them. The packaging on the Canadian CX-9 remains the same with the changes listed in my first post. The US models are always packaged different, I don't have access to US info.

Edit: Correction, there is one Lexus motor on the list.
 
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Mazda3 said:
The engine is derived from the Duratec 3.5L. This is not a bad thing. The fact that this is a Ford engine is because Ford paid for the development. There were Mazda and Volvo engineers involved with its development as well. This engine is on the Wards top ten list, it is state of the art technology. There are NO Honda, Acura, Toyota, or Lexus engines on the Wards list.

The top end of the motor is redone for the Mazda motors, by Mazda engineers. Read the reviews, they all comment on how much smoother, quieter, and more responsive the CX-9 is compared to the Edge. The Duratec is good motor in the Ford and a great motor in the Mazda.

Mazda has not released the final production HP/TQ specs yet, I will post them as soon as I have them. The packaging on the Canadian CX-9 remains the same with the changes listed in my first post. The US models are always packaged different, I don't have access to US info.

Edit: Correction, there is one Lexus motor on the list.

Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated! I've read the reviews, and I see that the Mazda version is smoother and a better engine. My friend says she can only find out info on the Lincoln side, as Mazda doesn't provide them with much of anything on cars assembled in Japan. I'm excited to see the final numbers on the new 3.7L for the 08 CX-9.

Thanks again
JP
 
Mazda3 said:
Production starts in June for the 08 model. Ordering is usually about 3 months ahead so this should be soon. The 3.7L will be the standard engine on all models. Please don't tell your dealer where you got the info. The more low key we keep my updates the easier it will be for me to share with the group.

I have ordered my first allocation for 08 CX-9 last month. They will be built in either June or July with delivery to dealerships early fall. I can also confirm the 3.7L engine is now a Mazda engine but the HP rating is going to be closer to 275 than to 300. One final note on the CX-7, the 08 models will no longer require premium gas!
 
mazdamanxl said:
I have ordered my first allocation for 08 CX-9 last month. They will be built in either June or July with delivery to dealerships early fall. I can also confirm the 3.7L engine is now a Mazda engine but the HP rating is going to be closer to 275 than to 300. One final note on the CX-7, the 08 models will no longer require premium gas!



do you know if there is any price increase? for the 2008 cx9?
 
mazdamanxl said:
I have ordered my first allocation for 08 CX-9 last month. They will be built in either June or July with delivery to dealerships early fall. I can also confirm the 3.7L engine is now a Mazda engine but the HP rating is going to be closer to 275 than to 300. One final note on the CX-7, the 08 models will no longer require premium gas!

Does this mean the CX-9 will have a horsepower increase?
 
anybody know the actual sales figures or projected figures of the CX models?? I have only seen 1 9 and maybe like 5-10 7's on the roads out here in vegas.

hopefully if they are low the little blip of engine power may help.
 
Every day on the way to work, I drive by the Mazda dealer where I purchased my CX-9. Based on the rate at which they are disappearing from the row of stock, they seem to be selling at a rate of about one every two days.

I had only seen one on the roads with dealer plates before I purchased mine. Now I'm seeing one almost every day.

Not very scientific I know, but just my subjective observations.
 
I'm not sure about the US, but In canada they are selling about 900 per month which is just a touch over their projections.
 
I'm not really interested as much in HP, I just want the thing to be able to tow between 5-6K LBS (Fat chance I know...)

I'll see what I can dig up on the motor, tap some resources...
 
I read that the more powerful engine was reserved for Lincoln cars to differentiate them from the similar fords and mazdas. Sales have not been good for lincoln, so this was how they were going to address that.

If this is really the case, then Madza will not get the more powerful engine. If so, then I'll probably bite. The MDX is powerful, but too small and the front too weird.

Is it in any cars other than Lincolns?
 
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Mazda3 said:
I'm not sure about the US, but In canada they are selling about 900 per month which is just a touch over their projections.

III. Exports
(1) March 2007
Exports have exceeded the figures from the same month of the previous year for 20 consecutive months since August 2005, with March 2007 increasing 14.4% over March 2006. This increase was led by the addition of CX-9 exports and an increased Mazda3 export volume. Exports in March 2007 recorded the best March result in the last 13 years since 1994.
On a market basis, exports for North America were particularly healthy, reaching 27,030 units (up 24.9% year-on-year) mainly due to an increased export volume of the Mazda3.

[Exports of key models in March 2007]
CX-9: 3,377 units
Mazda3: 37,130 units (up 18.9% year-on-year)

source: http://www.mazda.com/publicity/results/2007/070424_product.html
 
ZoomFive said:
I read that the more powerful engine was reserved for Lincoln cars to differentiate them from the similar fords and mazdas. Sales have not been good for lincoln, so this was how they were going to address that.

If this is really the case, then Madza will not get the more powerful engine. If so, then I'll probably bite. The MDX is powerful, but too small and the front too weird.

Is it in any cars other than Lincolns?

I also read that the 3.7L duratec would be reserved for the lincoln mks and mkx 08 models, but my friend at Ford says they build the engines in the US and then ship them to Japan to be fitted into the Mazdas. If you compare the CX-9 and Edge 3.5L motors, they are different as Mazda fine tunes them. Mazda has been testing the 3.7L in the Fusion for Ford, so I'm sure this is the reason for putting them in the 08 cx-9.

Remember, Ford doesn't own Mazda 100%, but rather a share and they have a partnership on some platforms for certain cars. If they did share everything, the Focus would be as good as the Mazda3, it's not. Mazda is not like Mercury or Lincoln with Ford, so putting the 3.7L in the 08 CX-9 won't take away from Lincoln's strategy for moving more upscale and differentiating itself. The idea behind Lincoln separating itself from Mercury and Ford is the main reason for making the 3.7 exclusive to Lincoln. To the public, a Lincoln is just a rebadged Ford with some chrome and a different grill. Why buy a MKX when the Edge does the same thing for less. This is why Lincoln wants the 3.7L and the Edge won't get it at first. Mazda isn't a thought in this strategy.

JP
 
poof100 said:
I also read that the 3.7L duratec would be reserved for the lincoln mks and mkx 08 models, but my friend at Ford says they build the engines in the US and then ship them to Japan to be fitted into the Mazdas. If you compare the CX-9 and Edge 3.5L motors, they are different as Mazda fine tunes them. Mazda has been testing the 3.7L in the Fusion for Ford, so I'm sure this is the reason for putting them in the 08 cx-9.

Remember, Ford doesn't own Mazda 100%, but rather a share and they have a partnership on some platforms for certain cars. If they did share everything, the Focus would be as good as the Mazda3, it's not. Mazda is not like Mercury or Lincoln with Ford, so putting the 3.7L in the 08 CX-9 won't take away from Lincoln's strategy for moving more upscale and differentiating itself. The idea behind Lincoln separating itself from Mercury and Ford is the main reason for making the 3.7 exclusive to Lincoln. To the public, a Lincoln is just a rebadged Ford with some chrome and a different grill. Why buy a MKX when the Edge does the same thing for less. This is why Lincoln wants the 3.7L and the Edge won't get it at first. Mazda isn't a thought in this strategy.

JP

Let's hope, so by the time that we buy they might have this additional power and maybe thicker carpeting/padding. We would be trading in our BMW for the space. I would like to maintain some peformance.
 
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