Hondas 2011 Odyssey Concept Aims at the Hesitators

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Hondas 2011 Odyssey Concept Aims at the Hesitators

Its incredible what a pair of sliding doors does to a vehicles image. Whenever I drove the Mazda 5, I could talk until I was blue in the face to my friends about its sporty looks, solid chassis, flexible interior, and the availability of a manual transmission. They, however, took one look at those sliding doors and the 5s roofline, and instantly -- and perhaps incorrectly -- branded it a mom-mobile."

According to Honda, this mentality exists outside of my social circles. In fact, theres a sizable number of buyers who appreciate the flexibility and functionality of a minivan, but arent sold on their stodgy, family-centric image.

We call them hesitators, says Vicki Poponi, assistant vice president of product planning at American Honda.

The new 2011 Odyssey, previewed here by this slick styling buck, is aimed squarely at these buyers. Designers lowered the roofline, pulled the A-pillars forward and raked them back, and gifted the sides with a sporty lightning bolt character line. Although its not quite as sharp-edged as Nissans Forum concept from 2008, it is sporty -- especially when viewed next to a current 2010 Odyssey.

If you like what you see here, chances are youll like the 2011 model when it launches this fall. As was the case with the CR-Z concept shown at last years Tokyo show and the production version launched earlier this year, the LED headlamps and light-pipe foglamps are the only flights of fancy -- in fact, executives say its a very, very close look at the production van.

Expect that production model to launch this fall, possibly at the 2010 Los Angeles auto show.


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Once again I see that it is not an apples to apples comparo but many of the new minivan articles and reports now talk about or compare to the Mazda5, for the good or the bad, yet I still recall back in 2005 when everybody looked the Mazda5 down or simply nobody cared about it... ;)
 
They may have got better response if they unvieled a different color that "appliance white".

That lightning bolt feature is hideous.
 
Spy Shots: 2011 Honda Odyssey

The current Honda Odyssey is widely considered to be the best of its breed, but let's face facts: it's old. Toyota has upped its game with the new Sienna; Nissan is on hiatus, preparing to spring an all-new Quest; and Chrysler continues to do its thing with the Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan. Oh, there's also the Volkswagen Routan, but no one'll hold it against you for forgetting it exists.

Anyway, Honda's readying the next-gen Odyssey for release sometime later this year. We've already gotten a near-production preview in the form of the "concept" version introduced in Chicago and presently sitting on the floor at the New York Auto Show. Now, thanks to reader Bernardo Roque, we've got a few new spy shots of the next-gen van out testing in Las Vegas. One photo gives a peek at the interior via the open driver's door and tailgate, but it's still too far away to see anything in useful detail. What is obvious is that this thing is otherwise fundamentally identical to the so-called Odyssey Concept.

We'll go out on a limb and guess that the 2011 Honda Odyssey is roomier, more powerful and/or more fuel-efficient than the current van, with a better interior and enough cupholders to service an entire preschool. Maybe two. Whether Honda will step up and offer all-wheel drive remains a mystery, but that's the one thing Toyota holds over all its competitors' heads right now. That's gotta irk someone on the Big H's org chart. We're actually looking forward to seeing the finished product. Yeah, we just said that about a minivan. Sue us


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Its incredible what a pair of sliding doors does to a vehicles image. Whenever I drove the Mazda 5, I could talk until I was blue in the face to my friends about its sporty looks, solid chassis, flexible interior, and the availability of a manual transmission. They, however, took one look at those sliding doors and the 5s roofline, and instantly -- and perhaps incorrectly -- branded it a mom-mobile."


It's a shame how sensitive people have become to "image". Probably a bigger shame how sliding doors have become associated only with "mom mobiles". If you have ever hauled lumber, bricks or something else that is insanely large and heavy, you cannot underestimate the benefit of sliding doors. I know my voice doesn't count but sliding doors are definitely for "men" too!
 
Problem isn't that sliding doors belong to women - I have heard many a man voice opinion on the awesomeness of owning a minivan, but its that these men (and women) are decidedly part of a sea of dreariness and stability. Minivans are what you get when you have finally given up your sense of adventure and settled in with your 2.5 kids in a 3.5 bathroom house in a cul-de-sac far far away from trendy restaurants. If minivans were used to haul surfboards instead of cinder blocks, then maybe those who eschew their fondness of the vehicle would get some cred, but even Toyota's marketers are slamming the market segment by spoofing the 30-something family with "balding-unshaven man" and his "swagger-wagon."

The Mazda5 has a chance to turn that on its head - Mazda just needs to get out and interview owners & put out a commercial showcasing its demographic. Decidedly NOT your average hopeless minivan buyer!
 
Injury preventer too!

It's a shame how sensitive people have become to "image". Probably a bigger shame how sliding doors have become associated only with "mom mobiles". If you have ever hauled lumber, bricks or something else that is insanely large and heavy, you cannot underestimate the benefit of sliding doors. I know my voice doesn't count but sliding doors are definitely for "men" too!
Never did see the sliding doors as womanly till I read these postings. But I will say for guys and gals it is a back saver. How many times can you figure out how easier it was to adjust or move things using the sliding doors?
 
Yeah, it's really a shame that "sliding doors" have become associated with the stigma of the "mom's minivan".

I always wondered why no manufacturer have ever put sliding doors on any of their SUVs or crossovers. It really would increase the "Utility" part of the SUV even more. Too bad the stigma of sliding doors have so far prevented that.

Perhaps the new Ford C-max will turn the tide. But I doubt it.
 
How many times can you figure out how easier it was to adjust or move things using the sliding doors?

You were saying? What about loading passengers and crap during Winter without having to leave the garage? Come on stigma, bring it on :p

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You were saying? What about loading passengers and crap during Winter without having to leave the garage? Come on stigma, bring it on :p


+1 but preaching to the choir. Any guy posting in this particular forum is probably way beyond any stigma of minivans. LOL
 

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