HID 6000K vs 4300K Pics

i am running H7 HID conversion kit on stock projector housing. ^^

i am wondering. how the output differ if i use D2S bulb instead of H7 bulb..

aren't all HID d2s or d2r? I thought the h7 fitment just had the right notches and stuff, but the bulb is d2s.

oh and just stick with 4300k or whatever. I have never seen a 5000k kit that looked good.
 
aren't all HID d2s or d2r? I thought the h7 fitment just had the right notches and stuff, but the bulb is d2s.

oh and just stick with 4300k or whatever. I have never seen a 5000k kit that looked good.


do you mean.. ALL HID bulbs are either D2s or D2r with different bases???
(beside base part, bulb itself... i thought some is longer/taller than otheres,,)

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time to report back about night driving.


Ironically, the night i was testing 4300K , rain pours like crazy.. i was expecting see much better with HID kit, but guess what.. less than what i expected.. i guess i had "too much" expection on HID kit.
Meanwhile, i saw several cars with HID passing me by but no much visible lights on thiers either.. he he..

anyway, last night i finally tested on dry night and, Let's see, comparing to 6000K, 4300K gives more yellower/whiter light down the road, which suppose to give "better" visibilty for night time driving. it does lighten up the road nicely,especially right in front of the car, but light distribution to both sides were similar (i was expecting to see improvement but it is desigen with halogen projector's not 4300K bulb's fault)

overall, bit more visible than 6000K but "not much".. IMO.

very tempted to go back to 6000K..
 
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Light distribution will be identical to 6000K bulbs. You're just changing color temp.

As to using them in the rain, yellow is gonna be the winner for you. Get a set of 2300K fogs.

I'm running PIAA plasma ion 2300K fog light bulbs and i notice a difference in the rain with them on. as opposed to just the HID's

Tylor
 
time to report back about night driving.


Ironically, the night i was testing 4300K , rain pours like crazy.. i was expecting see much better with HID kit, but guess what.. less than what i expected.. i guess i had "too much" expection on HID kit.
Meanwhile, i saw several cars with HID passing me by but no much visible lights on thiers either.. he he..

anyway, last night i finally tested on dry night and, Let's see, comparing to 6000K, 4300K gives more yellower/whiter light down the road, which suppose to give "better" visibilty for night time driving. it does lighten up the road nicely,especially right in front of the car, but light distribution to both sides were similar (i was expecting to see improvement but it is desigen with halogen projector's not 4300K bulb's fault)

overall, bit more visible than 6000K but "not much".. IMO.

very tempted to go back to 6000K..
This is what I like to see... People who try things for themselves. Everyone will tell you 'xxxxK has more light!' 'No, xxxxK is better because...' but all in all, it's all about personal preference. Don't listen to me, don't listen to the next guy, listen to yourself :)

So how did your 6000's and your 4300's compare in the rain?
 
This is what I like to see... People who try things for themselves. Everyone will tell you 'xxxxK has more light!' 'No, xxxxK is better because...' but all in all, it's all about personal preference. Don't listen to me, don't listen to the next guy, listen to yourself :)

So how did your 6000's and your 4300's compare in the rain?

^^.. while i had 6000K on.. there was "no real rain" just drizzle .. could not really try it on down pour....

i am thinking to keep 4300K since,, it gives more visible light and nice look(that is compare to stock halogen) and close to stock HID color..(lol2)

When is your 12000K coming???(lol2)
 
^^.. while i had 6000K on.. there was "no real rain" just drizzle .. could not really try it on down pour....

i am thinking to keep 4300K since,, it gives more visible light and nice look(that is compare to stock halogen) and close to stock HID color..(lol2)

When is your 12000K coming???(lol2)
That's good to hear. Sucks that you never got to try the 6000k's in heavy rain.

I'm just waiting on my other ballast. One of my ballast in the kit turned out to be bad so I had to PayPal the guy $20 for the warranty replacement and when I get the new one and make sure it's good, i'll send the bad one to him and he'll refund my $20.

I'll start another thread when I finally get it on :)
 
12000K? Wow, that's purple! Do you do alot of night driving?
 
I don't know, if you would've asked me a year or two ago which HID's I like the best, I'd say a bluer temp like 6,000K or higher. But after seeing other cars with HID, just my personal opinion, but the bluer/purpler color temps look terrible. It looks so forced like "Hey, you should be impressed cause I got teh HID!" OEM Bimmers, Audis, Lexus' etc still have a pinch of blueness in them, but especially BMW is more towards the yellow end.

If I'd invest in these at some point I'd rather have function vs. looks, so I'd probably go for 4300K. That shot against the garage between Silverstar halogens and 4300k HID's kind of shocked me how when you compare those technologies side-by-side, even 4300K is a vast improvement. I dunno, just my preferences on the issue.


Now a slightly unrelated question, does anyone ever have problems with the cops in aftermarket HID's? Granted, a new car like the Mazda5 (esp considering it has projector fixtures) may pass the test easier than say, a mid-90's car before HID's were even on the scene.
 
I don't know, if you would've asked me a year or two ago which HID's I like the best, I'd say a bluer temp like 6,000K or higher. But after seeing other cars with HID, just my personal opinion, but the bluer/purpler color temps look terrible. It looks so forced like "Hey, you should be impressed cause I got teh HID!" OEM Bimmers, Audis, Lexus' etc still have a pinch of blueness in them, but especially BMW is more towards the yellow end.

If I'd invest in these at some point I'd rather have function vs. looks, so I'd probably go for 4300K. That shot against the garage between Silverstar halogens and 4300k HID's kind of shocked me how when you compare those technologies side-by-side, even 4300K is a vast improvement. I dunno, just my preferences on the issue.


Now a slightly unrelated question, does anyone ever have problems with the cops in aftermarket HID's? Granted, a new car like the Mazda5 (esp considering it has projector fixtures) may pass the test easier than say, a mid-90's car before HID's were even on the scene.

here is what i've learned so far since my journey in HID began.

4300K (factory HID) gives pure white/little yellow tint.. if it is used in Mz5 projector housing, it produces whitish yellow light with very slight hue of blue.

6000K gives white/blue.. it produces intense white with strong blue hue around it.

Luxury brand with factory HID (projector type) produces blue hue not by having higher K temp bulbs.. rahter it is "side effect" (or i should say design of projector) of beam reflection inside of projector..

in order for Mz5 to imitate the blue hue.. choice of 6000K is recommanded.
 
I don't know, if you would've asked me a year or two ago which HID's I like the best, I'd say a bluer temp like 6,000K or higher. But after seeing other cars with HID, just my personal opinion, but the bluer/purpler color temps look terrible. It looks so forced like "Hey, you should be impressed cause I got teh HID!" OEM Bimmers, Audis, Lexus' etc still have a pinch of blueness in them, but especially BMW is more towards the yellow end.

you aren't alone. blue bulbs got played out by around 2003. I rocked the ricer-blue garbage bulbs (not HID) back in 2000/2001 and I thought they were so cool, lololol. Yellow became the new cool around 2005. I can't hate on it cuz it actually works.
 
As stated, the blue and purple inside luxury car projectors is not due to the Kelvin temp, but, rather, as stated the lens and cuttoff inside the projector. You can mod most any projector to get a bluer even purple color at the cutoff but still have the beam pattern at 4300K

Tylor
 
found this pic on mz fourm
comparsion betweenn 5000K and 6000K in action.
(bit more light on 5000K, bit more bluer in 6000K)
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dreamym5, within in your first two posts of this topic, you posted a handful of pics. Only one of them is considerably more yellow than the rest… is this yellow one Halogen or 4300K HID?

If it’s the 4300K HID, then I’m confused because below in the next post you have to bluish shots of the “4300K in action”… and the head on side by side comparison of both appear to be very similar as well.
 
dreamym5, within in your first two posts of this topic, you posted a handful of pics. Only one of them is considerably more yellow than the rest… is this yellow one Halogen or 4300K HID?

If it’s the 4300K HID, then I’m confused because below in the next post you have to bluish shots of the “4300K in action”… and the head on side by side comparison of both appear to be very similar as well.

every pics i post in this thread is "HID" in action

on first page of this thread, i put 4300K and 6000K side by side. to compare.

the one you think very "yellow" than rest is 4300K and right below is 6000K.
the camera setting i used to capture core color of each light which one came out yellower than the other.

However, next pics were all 4300K in action. I did chang the camera setting on these pics to capture the ture color of 4300K.

After these shots i had a chance to compare 4300K to Halogen H7.
Trust me.. 4300K is super white/bit bluer than stock halogen..

I know you are thinking to get a HID kit and deciding on color temperature..

i say get 4300K kit for best visible light or 5000K if you like little blue hue..

i hope that clearify things.. (stash)
 
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yep, that clarifies it, thanks. I'm STRONGLY leaning towards 4300K because for me performance > looks, but yet I don't want to shell out $$$ for yellowish HID's, either... that's my dilema. I'll take your word on it though, in person is the only real way to evaluate them.

thanks again.
 
yep, that clarifies it, thanks. I'm STRONGLY leaning towards 4300K because for me performance > looks, but yet I don't want to shell out $$$ for yellowish HID's, either... that's my dilema. I'll take your word on it though, in person is the only real way to evaluate them.

thanks again.

think of it this way...4300k is still whiter than stock halogen.

Jim Powell mentioned some very very good prices right now on DDM HID kits.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/hidkihidbuhi.html

These are QUALITY kits for $110.
 
yep, that clarifies it, thanks. I'm STRONGLY leaning towards 4300K because for me performance > looks, but yet I don't want to shell out $$$ for yellowish HID's, either... that's my dilema. I'll take your word on it though, in person is the only real way to evaluate them.

thanks again.

On page 1 I posted a pic comparing stock halogen(far left), Silverstar Ultra(pass. side left car) and the 4300K 35 watt HID kit in my car on the right. If you're worried about it being yellow, it isn't. It's PURE white. On startup, it is fairly blue though, but once warmed, they're white. I wouldn't worry about them being yellow.

Tylor
 
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