help - seized wheel hub assembly

[lime]

Hey guys,

So my passenger side rear wheel bearing on my 02 p5 was getting alittle to wobbly and grinding alot, got the new hub assembly, and began taking everything apart, it was going good till I got to the old hub assembly, it's seems to be seized on the spindle, ive hit it a couple times with a rubber mallet, with not much affect to, has anyone have any suggestions other then cutting it off with a grinder or blow tourch?

 

[tweety2300]

Torch and bfh.

 

[lime]

Damn, is there any other realistic way?

 

[tweety2300]

Press?

Are you trying to get the axle out or the bearing?

 

[pcb]

As luck would have it I am right in the middle of the same job as I'm typing. I am about half an hour away from what will likely be the same problem you're facing. (I rounded off the 14mm ball joint nut,... had to hammer on a 13mm socket. I'm off to Canadian Tire to buy a new 6 point 14mm 1/2 inch drive socket.)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'hub assembly' but this may be helpful:

Check out this link:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...tege-Front-Wheel-Bearing-Service-LOTS-OF-PICS

Be careful with the heat,... you don't want to cook your CV joint.

Forget the rubber mallet,... we're gonna need at least a mid-sized sledge hammer.

 

[pcb]

Let's see who gets this job done first. All my nuts and bolts have rusted down to the next size,... good thing I have 11mm and 13mm sockets.

 

[sleepwalker]

So my passenger side rear wheel bearing on my 02 p5.....

 

[pcb]

So my passenger side rear wheel bearing on my 02 p5.....

Oooops (again),... he will probably beat me then,... Although my knuckle is off now,.. so now to get my bearing out. (Luckily my CV shaft came out of the splines without trouble.)

The gear puller may still help him though.

You shouldn't need to worry about applying heat to the rear bearing then,...

 

[lime]

haha, well thanks for trying to help me anyway, i talked to my friend who has a few tourchs, im just going to pay him a little visit tomorrow, (after i put everything back together (mad)) good luck with getting your front done!

 

[MazdaSpeeder]

Definitely use a pusher/puller. You can "rent" them from autozone (not sure if the have that in Canada)...I have had to use one every time I have done a bearing. Just a heads up, when I got my rear hub off, the inner race of the bearing stayed on the spindle and greasy bearings rolled everywhere. We had to heat and work the inner race off.

 

[pcb]

Canadian Tire has a "loan a tool" program.

 

[pcb]

Did you get your spindle replaced ??

I got mine all finished. All with very little issue. I put the hub in the oven on broil (over 500*) for half an hour while the new bearing was in the freezer. I pulled the oven rack out,.. got the bearing from the freezer and it literally fell right to the bottom of the knuckle. I put the big c-lip in and let the bearing warm up from the hot knuckle (I put a bit of water on the knuckle,... I didn't wanna cook my new bearing). Then I took my spindle out of the freezer and pounded it in with about ten hits from a sledge hammer.

I have yet to test drive it to see if the rumble is gone on accounta I was pretty corked by the time I was done.

(I may have thread jacked but chances are if you've done a rear bearing you've got a front one to do in the near future,... they're cheaper but more work (It's just the actual bearing))

 

[lime]

Did you get your spindle replaced ??

I got mine all finished. All with very little issue. I put the hub in the oven on broil (over 500*) for half an hour while the new bearing was in the freezer. I pulled the oven rack out,.. got the bearing from the freezer and it literally fell right to the bottom of the knuckle. I put the big c-lip in and let the bearing warm up from the hot knuckle (I put a bit of water on the knuckle,... I didn't wanna cook my new bearing). Then I took my spindle out of the freezer and pounded it in with about ten hits from a sledge hammer.

I have yet to test drive it to see if the rumble is gone on accounta I was pretty corked by the time I was done.

(I may have thread jacked but chances are if you've done a rear bearing you've got a front one to do in the near future,... they're cheaper but more work (It's just the actual bearing))

haha, unfortunately no, i havent finished my job yet, i am going over to a buddies house who has the tools i need (and much more know-how) for the job,

and dont worry about thread jacking, i got all the help i needed, on a side note, i quickly scanned through your thread with your fix and it looks good man!

 

[Installshield 2]

The rears are cake with the proper bearing puller like mentioned...you won't need heat, or anything...they'll pop right off...just remember you can't reinstall anything without a new bearing to press in...for the rears, just a dead blow hammer and a block of wood or something to evenly distribute the load...and it'll move right onto the stub axle...

the fronts suck because of that little clip that is hard to get to...and because there is no fixed stub axle to push/pull off of...which is why the only 'easy' way to do it is with a press...

 

[xxskateratxx1]

As luck would have it I am right in the middle of the same job as I'm typing. I am about half an hour away from what will likely be the same problem you're facing. (I rounded off the 14mm ball joint nut,... had to hammer on a 13mm socket. I'm off to Canadian Tire to buy a new 6 point 14mm 1/2 inch drive socket.)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'hub assembly' but this may be helpful:

Check out this link:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...tege-Front-Wheel-Bearing-Service-LOTS-OF-PICS

Be careful with the heat,... you don't want to cook your CV joint.

Forget the rubber mallet,... we're gonna need at least a mid-sized sledge hammer.

Lol I tried using one of those pullers from a kit that i got from Harbor freight and tightened the thing on my axle shaft and the thing crapped out and the threads got all messed up and it wouldnt back off of my axle shaft.. I had to hammer the arms off of my spindle to get the damn thing off! My axle shaft was super stuck though... Used like 2 cans of PB Blaster and a HUUUUGE Heavy rubber hammer and went at it for days and the thing finally came off lol was a nightmare job for me though! But that was the front.. Havnt had to do the rears yet.. But i probably just jinxed myself!

 

[brandini]

No CVs in the rear, should be a much simpler job.

 

[pcb]

Lol I tried using one of those pullers from a kit that i got from Harbor freight and tightened the thing on my axle shaft and the thing crapped out and the threads got all messed up and it wouldnt back off of my axle shaft.. I had to hammer the arms off of my spindle to get the damn thing off! My axle shaft was super stuck though... Used like 2 cans of PB Blaster and a HUUUUGE Heavy rubber hammer and went at it for days and the thing finally came off lol was a nightmare job for me though! But that was the front.. Havnt had to do the rears yet.. But i probably just jinxed myself!

The one I have is a cheapo too. You can tell just by looking at it. The better ones are hardened steel with a tonnage rating. (that's not my pic but it looks like the kind that would break too)

I'm pretty sure the "loan a tool" programs have good quality pullers or they would all come back broken.

This one's rated 7 tonnes:

 

[lime]

so i have an update! i went out and got the puller, i cant believe how amazing that thing actually works, nothing budged it and it just pulled the bearing right off,

although i have a new question, i the inside raceway of the bearing suppose to come off the hub assembly, does this mean i have a defective bearing or am i suppose to press it in,

 

[pcb]

Are you talking about the new hub ???

I thought the hub assembly was all one piece and it just slides onto the axle stub after the old hub (and the old inner race that remained stuck to the axle stub) has been removed ???

 

[MazdaSpeeder]

I had the same thing happen...the inner race stuck to the spindle. Just heat it up and you should be able to work it off.