HELP! Mazda3 clutch failure at 42k, and dealer/warranty issues

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I'm an owner of an '07 Mazda3 with 42k miles. The car has never given me a single problem... until Sunday morning at 3am, when the clutch suddenly and catastrophically failed at 50mph - no power to the wheels in any gear. I coasted it into a parking lot, and noticed the clutch pedal vibrating when the car is in neutral and a burning smell under the hood.

The dealership is now giving me some funny stories.

First, the dealer told me that the flywheel and clutch pressure plate need to be replaced for $1200+labor, and that nothing is covered by the warranty. I pointed them to the Mazda website, which clearly and plainly indicates that both components are fully covered (5 years/60k miles) under the powertrain warranty. This took several phone calls over a few hours - and I even had to email them a link to the Mazda website!

Now, the dealer is telling me that the problem is with the clutch disc, which is not a covered item and is a normal wear item. The mechanic says that he'd like to replace the flywheel and clutch pressure plate as well - but keeps wavering on whether or not the warranty will cover them. Also, he's STILL quoting me a price of $1,200+labor for the repair, but says that he may be able to take off $500 if some parts are covered under the warranty. Oddly, he also tells me that the cost of the clutch disc, as a wear item, is only $120.

I called Mazda's customer support, but the guy who answered the phone just called the dealership and repeated what the mechanic said. He says he opened a case for review with the district manager for my area - but the mechanic also called and said he explained the situation to the district manager, who agrees with him.

Obviously, I have some questions:

1) Does a clutch disc ordinarily wear out at 42k miles - and wear out suddenly and catastrophically, with no warning or change in car behavior, followed by total failure of the transmission?

2) Does the sudden nature of the failure suggest a defect in the other parts of the clutch? And if those parts failed and burned out the clutch disc in the process, should the clutch disc also be covered under the power train warranty?

3) What should I do about the car repairs? Should I consider towing the vehicle to another dealership?

4) If there's a problem with an incorrect denial of warranty coverage or a sketchy explanation, what's my recourse? Do I file a complaint with Mazda HQ, or Edmunds, or the BBB? Or do I start looking around for an attorney?

MANY thanks in advance...
 
to answer your questions

1. Varys depending on driver skill level and type of driving. Do you slip the clutch a lot? lots of traffic? etc. these can all wear a clutch much faster than highway cruising

2. did pieces actually break off? if not i would suspect they would blame a severely worn clutch overheating and damaging other components. were you experiencing any kind of slipping prior?

3. you should replace all the components, including the throwout bearing

4. you can look for an attorney, but you need to do a cost out of pocket vs. legal fees to see if its worth it.

good luck
 
1) Nope, I'm an easy driver. Always using the brake while stopped. And the driving is 50/50 city (actually, very little stop-and-go traffic - I don't do rush hour) and long freeway trips.

2) Nope, the car showed no problems or warning signs of any kind. The clutch was fine, working exactly like the day I bought it - until the moment it failed altogether. I won't know about the extent of the damage until the dealer calls me back (probably today.)

3) Yeah, that type of repair is inevitable. I just don't know if I should rely on this dealer to do the repairs (since they don't seem very eager about doing them under the warranty - even the parts that are plainly covered!) or take the car elsewhere.

4) Yeah, I don't want to have to sue, and I know that it might not make sense. Just wondering if there's a good place to file my complaint for review or as warning to other customers.
 
i know dealers get business from mazda based on satisfaction ratings, so if you call and b**** about the dealership, it could put a black mark on their name. I would go somewhere else, and file a claim with mazda (did this with my smoking turbo) i got a claim number and contact person at MNAO\


if you get a chance to go to the dealership take a quick peek at the flywheel. if you had slipping problems it would be scored (bluish spots) if not, then the only thing i can think of is a catastrophic clutch failure caused from improper assembly. altho your high mileage is working against you, since they can claim "it worked well for 40k, if it was a defect it wouldve shown earlier"

heres a flywheel with heat/scoring from a slipping clutch

failure2.jpg
 
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Call Mazda USA and detail every conversation you had with the dealer in your posts. Also, get a second opinion from another Mazda dealer, as dealerships don't like doing warranty work, as Mazda pays them a flat rate on the repairs, whereas if it isn't warranty work they can charge you their higher labor rate.

Sounds like they're trying to get you to pay for something that you may not need. Stick to your guns.
 
WOW That sux man sorry, But as stated before try to look at the parts and see if the fly wheel has heat marks on it. Usually you can feel the clutch gonig bit if it was fine the boom they should cover it under warrety, A pressure plate finger could have casue this also which would be warrenty,, NO. If they keep refusing warrenty, Take the car to a aftermarket shop and get it done for half the $$$$$
 

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