Help: Give a guy a second chance? karma..?

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Everyone seems to have a sob story on this forum.. Here is mine.

Ive been seeing this guy for about 6 months now... we were totally in love.. he even got the diamond from my grandmothes wedding ring.. so that he could put it on my ring. I was introduced to him by my mom... who he worked with at the time. And everything was perfect. He told my mom all the time how much he loved me and wanted to be with me forever.. (blah blah)... and told me the same.

I found some texts on his cell phone about 2 weeks ago.. that led me to believe that someone liked him.. So i asked him about it. He reassured me that he wasnt interested in her .. and that she wrote him those texts because "girls are crazy".. and she must have had a crush on him. She also worked with him. He also told me that he had NOT flirted with her.. and had never sent her text messages like that. He said to me that he even told her that he had a g/f that he loved very much and he would take care of the "situation".

I told my mom about my concerns.. and he knew it. He called my mom and said: " i would never do anything to hurt your daughter.. and I love her soo much"

He has a history of lying to his parents.. so I took what he told me with a grain of salt. Feeling that I had to talk to this girl to clear things up.. i went to his work and had a few drinks and talked to her. ... being drunk.. i probally said a few too many things..
She DIDNT know he had a girlfriend, and she insisted that all the texts were all jokes.

I was very upset, and met him outside of his work to go out after hiis shift and get some drinks....He was BEYOND pissed off, that I took it upon myself to talk to this girl about the problem.. after he reassured me that he would take care of it. He yelled at me over and over again.

We go to a bar after he gets off work.. and have 1 drink.. I was pissed off and didnt want to hang out with him right then.. On the way home.. we get pulled over... sidenote (he was on probation).. the cop gives him the tests.. and takes him in for DUI to jail. I was fine to drive, so they gave me his car and his belongings.. including his cell phone.

That night I go through his cell to find people to call to get him out of jail.. and I see his text message folder. I open the messages.. and could not believe what I saw. He had sent her 3 messages saying how sorry he is to her.. that "this girl he is seeing is such a b****", and how this new girl is "too beautiful for him". ON and On.. and apparently they have had plans to hang out later that week. I also saw some messages from her to him.. saying she didnt know that he had a g/f.. and that he is way hot..

So now i'm conflicted.. Was I to get him out of jail and be a good person, and hear his side of the story... OR... leave him in jail and not tell anyone.. It was the worst night of my life.
He went into jail at 1am Friday night.. I spent the whole night talking to his friend, and discussing options in my own head. I decide to do the good thing..and help get him out of jail..
2pm on Saturday evening.. his bail amount was posted. He is lucky he has some good friends because I wasnt in a position to post his bail. Mentally and financially. I pick him up at 7:30pm on Saturday.. and all he can do is cry...
After calming down.. and I told him what I discovered.. I asked him why.. Why would you tell my mom and me that you loved me if you knew you were cheating on me... ? why would you lie to me about where you were? Why would you say you are so in love with me, and pull this s***? time and time again he said he would never lie to me..

Only to find out now, that our whole relationship was a lie. SOOO much unfolded that night when he was in jail... that i figured all theese things out in my head. Why ? ... he didnt know. He didnt have a answer.

Because of him being in jail he lost everything. His job.. his car, his cell phone.. his parents have no respect for him, and neither do my parents now.
I cant help but feel very very sorry for him.. and I think thats why I still am with him.. I want to help.. and I want things to get back to how they use to be..

All he has done is apologise for what he has done to me, and how he is so thankful that after all he did to me, I still bailed him out of jail. I love him so much, and he tells me that he loves me too, and would never do anything like that again..
So what do I do? Give him another chance? Would it be easier to get over this with him, and help him.. or should I move on?
 
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Give him another chance. That way you are taking away an opportunity for a good guy to go out with you. You need to keep the cycle going. You need to keep him so he can hurt you more in the future, hell, marry him. (please see through the sarcasm)
 
I can definately see the potential for hurt again in the future.. but inside me, I think i'm just wishful thinking that he wont do it again. If he loved me so much.. why did he do it in the first place? If we have only been together for a few months.. and he is doing this already.. why wouldnt he do it later, when he gets sick of the relationship..

When the relationship was GOOD.. it was really good.. Probally the best.. i just dont think i can do any better then that.
 
get away from him as fast as you can. His lies will get bigger, his lies will get deeper. He has already shown he doesn't respect you. Get away as fast as you can. he is a loser.
 
I'm sure my ex b/f's would atest to me being a cronic liar to them.. and I was.. But I met the right person.. and that changed inside me. I didnt lie to this guy at all.. i'm hoping if i'm the right person for him.. he can change.. someone shut me up :(
 
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once a cheater and liar always one. Sorry to hear all the bad things, but if you found all these things on your own you will never trust him again. You will find yourself wanting to check his messages all the time and think twice where he is telling you he is going. Life is too short, if youre parents dont trust or like him anymore and you sure dont trust him why stay? Hope things work out for the best in your favor, trust me i have been here before, but things were reversed and i have the most guilty consciense because of it now. add me to the s*** guy statistic.
 
Go talk to my brother Hugh, he will set you straight
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. Dont bother with this guy, you can't change him.
 
you will always think to yourself, "but he cheated on me before...." once you lose total trust in someone you rarely get it back. you may trust him again, but the doubt will always be there.
 
MikeBlueP5 said:
haha i love the women who think they can change a man.

He is the one who wants to change also..atleast that is what he is telling me. He said he would do "whatever it takes"
 
/\ correct, he does it once & gets off on it. He'll do it again because he knows you'll forgive him....if he loved you so much he would never had made himself available to others....
 
guys will say anything to keep the one, specially if they are getting the milk and the cookies if you know what i mean. Im sure thats not the only thing he was after from you, but like fk said it will happen again. bad guys dont change until they learn their lesson.
 
I'm sorry to say, but he's not ready for what you want out of a man. If he was going to change "his lying and cheating ways" for you he would've done it already, not because you caught him in the act.
Now the only thing you set is the precedent that he'll always be the cheater and liar, and he knows it. You love him and are willing to be 100% supportive and forgiving... he just feels guilty (or not) and knows that he can't screw up again, but won't really be 100% in without wishing that he just hadn't been caught in the first place.

Move on. When you are in a relationship because of pity it's no longer healthy. Sometimes it's really hard to make the right choice, from either side, but you just have to pull through, be the bigger person, and do what's best for the both of you.

Please think about it, who do you love and how do you know that this is who you love? If he's been a pack of lies (and not the white kind) then the guy doesn't really have a hold on his life and will learn the hard way that he has to change... and that has to happen on his own.
 
please dont just take it as a grain of salt either. The real good guy is out there somewhere cali is a big state. Plus you have a pimp car. lol
 
OH yea... dont know if you guys saw the thread where i announced my car was broken.. but I let him borrow my car for a week.. then got it back with a cracked radiator.. what luck.
 
if you think about it & you beleive him & do take him back, even if he does stay faithful you'll always have it in the back of your head that he's done it before & thats going to prevent you both from being happy
 

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