heat soak so bad?

[1moreMPH]

what's being argued here? Im confused.

 

[fr0st]

what's being argued here? Im confused.

not much...

what started as an exchange of opinion, ****** up..

 

[benflagg]

What kind of turbo, and how much boost, and the volume of air that has to be pressurized are all important factors that come into play when matching an intercooler to your setup. Not to mention the kind of driving that your going to do. All this arguing about what kind of intercooler is better is kind of pointless. So please, gentlemen, dont get your E-peens all hurt, and tied up in nots.

 

[1moreMPH]

hahaha, ^he said E-peens. but yea i agree.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

lol so what kinda core and what size should i get i mean there are so many and what pipeing kit and what size pipes lol if i relocate the mafs then i wont need to weld on a bpv fitting like knoxjoe stated will i?

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

can someone that knows a little about fmic's show me a link on ebay of the piping kit that would be suitable for a msp.

 

[Knox Joe]

lol so what kinda core and what size should i get i mean there are so many and what pipeing kit and what size pipes lol if i relocate the mafs then i wont need to weld on a bpv fitting like knoxjoe stated will i?

You'll still need a BPV or BOV of some kind.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

i was thinkin about maf relocation with a bov i would run it like this,

BOV-Maf-Intake mani

also i would vent to air.

 

[1moreMPH]

correct. That will work.

the whole setup goes like this:
intake--turbo--hot pipe--IC core--cold pipe (with bov welded on)--MAF--throttle body

For your application (whoever asked about 3 posts ago), i would stay with a small FMIC. HiBoost, BEGi, or corksport if you want a kit. If you're going custom, i would get a core somewhere in the ballpark of those fmic's sizing.

To maintain driveability, if you are going to get EMS (unichip, AFC, etc...) you may go a little larger than you would without EMS. I would stick to Hiboost/BEGi size without EMS because a fmic changes the system so much. Your stock computer is teh poop.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

i am for SURE going with a split second afc version two, but im still not sure about a intercooler size and what piping kit to get off ebay, there are so many and i really dont know which one is the best for our cars, someone that has dones this or knows bout this please show me or send me a link from a site such as ebay, as for the core size i guess we will have to debate it out.

 

[1moreMPH]

especially with the AFC, i would not hesitate a second longer and get in on the Corksport fmic group buy. That is a HELL of a kit, at a GREAT price.

if you must go custom, i would go talk to a custom turbo shop or exhaust shop and ask them about piping options.

 

[Knox Joe]

After seeing the price, and the fact that he would have to lose a fan with the CS kit, I'd have to say, I think you'll be better off going custom.

The only thing with the piping is that it has to match the turbo inlet and outlet, the throttle body, and the intercooler core inlet, and outlet.

I remember you saying your Dad works on cars. With the right size piping, and everything else I said, you guys should be able to get something going.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

yeah i dont really think doing the job will be a problem just getting the right stuff to asemble the kit.

 

[1moreMPH]

muffler shops have a lot of piping usually, or at least may know where to get it. They also have s*** to bend it with if necessary. That, or custom turbo shops. I would talk to them before buying a generic Ebay kit and piecing from there.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

well see there is not any turbo shops in somerset ky, thats the thing we have exhaust shops but they wont know. i know because we have some of our work done there and they are plain exhaust shops nothing special.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

bump

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

can anyone give me a link to ebay showing me the right piping kit for a msp (universal) because there is so many kinds!!!

 

[Arok22]

can anyone give me a link to ebay showing me the right piping kit for a msp (universal) because there is so many kinds!!!

I've been tossing around the FMIC custom route for a little while now. I've been reading to see what would work the best for heat issues etc. I have found a piping kit that I would consider. I will post the link to it and an FMIC core that I've been looking at and a pipe kit. When it comes to intercoolers you'll want to use a bar and plate design. You will want a 2.5 inlet/outlet for your IC and then you can pick up a universal Aluminum piping kit. I've been looking at all the FMIC kits for the MSP and studying their pipe routings to determine how much I would need to make the custom kit work. I also talked to a custom shop in town and they can TIG weld a flange for me for a minimal cost.
You could easily make your own kit for $300 and time. Saves a lot of money plus you could do a MAF relocate very easily.

FMIC: it is small like the hiboost and begi. This would work great for Stock boost and perhaps a little more. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...TRK:MEWA:VRI&viewitem=&item=190144000643&rd=1

Pipe kit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC...016QQitemZ260151672707QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

(drive2)

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

thanks alot i looked everywhere, searched and everything and couldnt find anything.... btw what kind of shop would tig? a welding shop? and did they give you a price?

 

[Arok22]

thanks alot i looked everywhere, searched and everything and couldnt find anything.... btw what kind of shop would tig? a welding shop? and did they give you a price?

Pretty much any welding shop can do it. As long as they have a TIG welder, they should be able to help. I also saw some stainless steel 2.5" piping at www.horsepowerfreaks.com for a reasonable price. The links I gave you are for aluminum pipe. I like that kit because it gives you lots of pipe to work with and a ton of couplers/ t-clamps. You could use the couplers to mock up a kit and have it all welded together or you can just use the couplers to join your pipes. If you are staying around stock boost, no real reason to get it all welded except for looks. Much better if you are doing a MAF relocate. The seller for the pipe kit I sent you also offers blue coupler sets and black pipe/red coupler sets. Gives you a variety of colors to choose from. I like the polished pipe and the red couplers. It will match my intake well. (eekdance)