Has the MS3 dethroned SRT4?

[Donas64]

With the arrival of all the shiny new MS3's to dealers, has the Neon SRT 4 been officially dethroned as the king of the pocket rocket hill? Or is it still to early to call a TKO?

Better Perfomance = not quite sure about this one yet
Better Handling = Advantage MS3
Better After market = too early to tell
Better interior = TKO MS3
Tunder Desireability = Too early to tell.

Your opinions are wanted.

vs.

The old pro will a killer knockout punch vs. The new kid with the fresh legs and a lotta guts!

It's gunna be good!

 

[ZoomZoomH]

i'm still amazed that the engineers at Dodge can never figure out how to fit a powered window motor into the rear doors of a Neon, poor engineering ftl lol

 

[Donas64]

Also please I don't want this to turn into a SRT4 vs MSP or vs MS3 flamefest. Just based on what we know. It's just about an admitted fact that the SRT4 changed the pocket rocket game and no ones really had the balls to take it on....till now.

 

[Donas64]

i'm still amazed that the engineers at Dodge can never figure out how to fit a powered window motor into the rear doors of a Neon, poor engineering ftl lol

yeah that is quite funny.

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

The MS3 dethrones the SRT4 w/ its looks alone...not even mentioning all the other goodies

 

[MP3Architect]

i dont think it would be fair to say ms3 vs neon srt4. are they still selling neon srt4's? once the caliber comes out...that should be the nemises of the ms3.

 

[Donas64]

i dont think it would be fair to say ms3 vs neon srt4. are they still selling neon srt4's? once the caliber comes out...that should be the nemises of the ms3.

I fully understand that. But it's current nemesis is the SRT4 wether they make it or not.

Despite it's crappy values the SRT4 is still the cheapest way to go fast available out right now. Nothing even came close to touching it for the price until the MS3 came out. So until the Caliber comes out, the only thing to compare the MS3 powerwise too and thats in the same price range is the Neon SRT4.

now back on topic: Is there any truth to the claim that the SRT4 is actually faster in the quarter while and might actually put more power down to the wheels than the MS3?

 

[Black_Protege_5]

Yea it is too early to tell still. Power wise I am not sure if the ms3 will be able to catch up. But the SRT-4 can't really handle that well. Plus ppl are saying that the ms3 doesn't even handle that well especially under throttle. Stock on stock the ms3 should take it. But give them both some good suspension and engine mods and it will be close. Now if only the ms3 can handle as well as the Pro then there is no question.

 

[CTt3P5]

i dont think it would be fair to say ms3 vs neon srt4. are they still selling neon srt4's? once the caliber comes out...that should be the nemises of the ms3.

Yes, Dodge did the dirty work by discontinuing the neon. I personally liked the srt-4 (and the MS3 wins in all categories IMO). But I do agree that it should be the MS3 vs the Caliber srt.

http://http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/08/aye-carumba-dodge-unloads-the-300-hp-caliber-srt-4/

 

[jbiird317]

i never was a fan of dodges comfort, style, or reliability. I think the SRT4 was a good car, but the caliber srt is the real challenger. From what I've read it will be slightly more powerful, but heavier and handle worse. I would still take my ms3 over the caliber srt4 based on looks alone.

 

[Donas64]

So no one is going to answer my freakin question as to wether the Brand new MS3 is a better performer (HP, TORQUE, mile times) than the long in tooth SRT4? Geez!! You guys THE CALIBER IS NOT OUT YET!!!!!!!

I'm interested in knowing if new is indeed better and if MAZDA got it right this time.

We can save the MS3 vs CALIBER debates when the caliber is actually OUT!

 

[toucci]

My question is: what throne? (peep)

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

hahaha Zing!

My question is: what throne? (peep)

 

[Donas64]

My question is: what throne? (peep)

The throne of the fastest pocket rocket. Very Fast, very affordable.

 

[Kansei]

^^ and 450whp possible on stock motor and turbo!! that's nothing to laugh at for a car that is/was so cheap!

 

[Captain KRM P5]

stock for stock in a quarter mile race i think the neon srt4 would have the advantage

 

[ZoomZoomH]

caliber is horrific looking thing of a car, it's more like a mini crossover than a car actually, pocket rocket my ass

 

[Donas64]

caliber is horrific looking thing of a car, it's more like a mini crossover than a car actually, pocket rocket my ass

It is an ugly looking brick, but it going .to be an incredibly fast, ridiculously torquey ugly looking brick

 

[Donas64]

stock for stock in a quarter mile race i think the neon srt4 would have the advantage

That surprises me because the MS3 has more horsepower and and torque.

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

the srt4 gets more of it to the wheels tho...

That surprises me because the MS3 has more horsepower and and torque.