Greddy emanage timing control!
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another question for Terry:
will this come with the ~100 dollar or so greddy pressure sensor?
i know the pressor sensor for the 60mm warning gauge is the same and can also be used with the emanage. thatd be cool if it did come with it, and i could say hey man keep it and trade me the Software and cable instead
will this come with the ~100 dollar or so greddy pressure sensor?
i know the pressor sensor for the 60mm warning gauge is the same and can also be used with the emanage. thatd be cool if it did come with it, and i could say hey man keep it and trade me the Software and cable instead
For what reason would I have to make this up? What do I have to gain? Am I trying to sell anybody an emanage? Just trying to help the community. I appreciate some of the information people ost and I am just trying to do my part to give what I can. I am just sharing my findings so people don't have to go dump $$$ into a standalone when the emanage might do the job for an average person.
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If you're trying to help, you could start by helping. Stating that yours works doesn't help us. Showing us how you have it hooked up, any problems you ran into along the way, any special things you had to take care of, those would all help.
We know that the e-manage needs to be modified to work properly on an MSP, or MP3 or P5. Did you modify your unit?
How did you come up with your timing control? You said you wired it wrong then got it right? It would help if you explained it to everyone instead of just saying it works.
We know that the e-manage needs to be modified to work properly on an MSP, or MP3 or P5. Did you modify your unit?
How did you come up with your timing control? You said you wired it wrong then got it right? It would help if you explained it to everyone instead of just saying it works.
turboge said:
Nothing needs to be modified. For air/fuel adjustments, you will need to use the "special adapter", which is just a resistor, that is supplied with the emanage. Everything is straight forward, just follow the instructions. Nothing special required. It's just splicing and tapping of wires. I am not at home but I have all the pin outs and stuff marked in my shop manual at home. If you need the pin outs, I could post them later.
I wired it wrong the first time because all the "ignition harness" is extra wires for you to add to the emanage connector. I just plug one of the ignition wires into the wrong slot and was easily rectified by double checking the instructions.
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I was told a transistor had to be soldered onto the e-manage circuit to relieve problems of leaninig out under minor adjustment. I've seen the resistor diagrams as well and thought that was the only thing that was necessary as well, but I've heard different from Terry.
Why was everyone having so much trouble trying to get the ignition timing to work? I know theres only 2 outputs on the stock ecu, 1 going to each coil but if it was so easy as 2 wires why did all these people give up?
Terry, care to chime in on setup of Ignition and the resistor vs transistor?
Why was everyone having so much trouble trying to get the ignition timing to work? I know theres only 2 outputs on the stock ecu, 1 going to each coil but if it was so easy as 2 wires why did all these people give up?
Terry, care to chime in on setup of Ignition and the resistor vs transistor?
turboge said:
I don't remember if it ran without the resistor, it either wasn't running right or not running at all untill I installed the resistor.
I would like to know who came to the conclusion that the emanage did not work. It was confirmed that it worked with a new miata and all i did was compared the wiring diagrams for the ignition system from the miata to the protege and the general layout/components are the same.
BinaryRotary
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Interesting, I'd like to see the pin out.
Little Beavis
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I think it took some time for people to figure it out, but there are more and more "simple" timing control devices coming out of late. . .just hard to be the "first" or to get it right, right out of the box. Fun, fun. This is great news for the Protege community.
MP3skaterNC
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Silence is because terry is in NYC right now on vacation. I can answer some of your questions, but not all.
MP3skaterNC
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Are you speaking about these questions?
If you use the one from your boost guage, what would you end up doing with the gauge?
I never really saw another question? Can you point it out to me?
answer to this one is yes. The emanage package will come with the greddy pressure sensor, this is so the system will go to the specific maps at the different boost pressures. The system will come pretuned for up to 15psi most likely.
If you use the one from your boost guage, what would you end up doing with the gauge?
I never really saw another question? Can you point it out to me?
MP3skaterNC
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Yea, its not going to come with the support tool. They haven't decided yet if they are going to password protect the emanage or not. Terry's kinda iffy about allowing it to go out unprotected, since his maps for the s2k were stolen and are now being used in a competeing company's e-manage controlled s2k turbo kit. If they do password lock it, the support tool would be somewhat useless. I wouldn't do any tuning anyway without a wb02 anyway, and I dont see that listed in your sig.
i was planning on getting the greddy A/F gauge, which terry said was pretty good. thats kinda crappy if the password protect it...hrm...(though equally as crappy about the s2k maps)
and about the boost sensor, i see how it hooks up now. cant i just splice the wires from the harness and connect them to my boost gauge data "brain" ?
and about the boost sensor, i see how it hooks up now. cant i just splice the wires from the harness and connect them to my boost gauge data "brain" ?
MP3skaterNC
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I dont see why not, if you have a connector to hook it into the emanage.
http://mazdamp3.com/vbb230/showthread.php?threadid=31325&perpage=15&highlight=pin%20out&pagenumber=2 , pin out diagram compliments of turboge. Each wire/terminal on the ecu connector is actually numbered.
26 ignition coil 1 & 4 signal (to channel 1 in, emanage)
52 ignition coil 2 & 3 signal (to channel 2 in, emanage)
48 RPM
71 switched power (key on)
88 MAF
89 TPS
74 #3 injector
75 #1 injector
100 #4 injector
101 #2 injector
24, 51, 76, 77 are all ground
http://atomic.digitalcreation.net/Graphics/ZX3%20Pics/Focus%20Documentation/ , interesting ford/emanage readings... explains required ignition signals for the emanage.
26 ignition coil 1 & 4 signal (to channel 1 in, emanage)
52 ignition coil 2 & 3 signal (to channel 2 in, emanage)
48 RPM
71 switched power (key on)
88 MAF
89 TPS
74 #3 injector
75 #1 injector
100 #4 injector
101 #2 injector
24, 51, 76, 77 are all ground
http://atomic.digitalcreation.net/Graphics/ZX3%20Pics/Focus%20Documentation/ , interesting ford/emanage readings... explains required ignition signals for the emanage.
