Got Swirls?

Mr Detailer · Jun 8, 2006

The original pads or the P2 pads? (P2 pads have the fancy edging)
And you got the 6" Excel backing plate you said?

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 8, 2006

just the regular pads and i think the backing plate might have been 7" honestly i don't even remember lol

I just want swirl marks gone damnit lol haha

Mr Detailer · Jun 8, 2006

Excel doesn't carry a 7" backing plate. There's a 5" and 6" flexible urethane backing plate. The original Propel pads work best with the 5" backing plate and the P2 pads work well with either plate.

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 8, 2006

Mr Detailer said:
Excel doesn't carry a 7" backing plate. There's a 5" and 6" flexible urethane backing plate. The original Propel pads work best with the 5" backing plate and the P2 pads work well with either plate.

aww man im gunna have 2 call them tomorrow morning and find out what i ordered lol so i can change it b4 they ship lol

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 8, 2006

so what would u recommend me getting then the PC + what would you buy i should have asked u first

Mr Detailer · Jun 8, 2006

I would recommend that you get some SSR2.5, a green P2 pad, a yellow P2 pad, and a 6" backing plate.
Of course I'd recommend that you also pick up some MF towels, but if you're confident that your Zymol MF towels are high quality, you can stick with those. I have 45 of the blue and yellow Supremes and couldn't be happier with them.
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=29279

Didn't you get an email confirmation showing your order?

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 9, 2006

Mr Detailer said:
I would recommend that you get some SSR2.5, a green P2 pad, a yellow P2 pad, and a 6" backing plate.
Of course I'd recommend that you also pick up some MF towels, but if you're confident that your Zymol MF towels are high quality, you can stick with those. I have 45 of the blue and yellow Supremes and couldn't be happier with them.
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=29279

Didn't you get an email confirmation showing your order?

Yes i did but i didn't look at it until now i did get the 6" backing plate but it didn't say P2 for the pads so they must not be i am going 2 call in the morning and fix the order and i might pick up some microfibers from there now since your critisizing mine that were hella expensive lol

exceldetail · Jun 9, 2006

Damn Paul, nice work..........(ughdance)
Great job amigo.....

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 9, 2006

alright mr. detailer cancelled the order b/c i screwed it all up..... i need some help from you again so correct me if i am wrong before i order (i will wait to hear from you)

So the buffer from here http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/...24.htm?L+coastest+bcfc3052ff41d841+1149776745

and it says it comes with a backing plate so would i still need to buy either of the 6" of these in order to use the propel P2 pads?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=37932

and then the propel p2 pads im assuming are these?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=ALL&recview=131

and then the poorboys wax from here i think im gunna buy ssr2 and ssr2.5 that good?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=29303

and then the microfiber towels that u just posed the link 2 please help me and correct me if any of this is wrong

thanks so much man

Albert · Jun 9, 2006

Hey Mr Detailer ... check out this link - it gives you lots of props from me and others and a few curses for getting us all addicted to the Porter Cable!

Again let me say thanks. This was the thread that made me realize that my finish wasn't nearly as good as it could be.

Out of curiosity, do you prefer applying polish, then wax or wax, then polish?

Mr Detailer · Jun 9, 2006

vcinsanity1523 said:
So the buffer from here http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/...24.htm?L+coastest+bcfc3052ff41d841+1149776745

and it says it comes with a backing plate so would i still need to buy either of the 6" of these in order to use the propel P2 pads?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=37932

That's the right polisher, yes. It does come with a backing plate, which is a non-flexible 6" backing plate. The Propel backing plates are flexible urethane, and are thin. Thicker backing plates pose more risk of contacting the surface while polishing curved areas of the car. I would still buy the 6" backing plate, but the factory one will work if you don't want to buy another one.

and then the propel p2 pads im assuming are these?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=29307

Yes. I'd recommend you get these two:
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=ALL&pd=273398&recview=131
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=ALL&pd=273401&recview=131
Use the orange pad first with SSR2.5, and then follow up with either green + SSR2, or green + SSR2.5.

and then the poorboys wax from here i think im gunna buy ssr2 and ssr2.5 that good?
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=29303

Are you getting the Poorboy's wax (Nattys) or are you just referring to SSR2/2.5? Those are polishes, not waxes. Those two polishes are usually adequate for the average car. I haven't seen pictures of the swirls on your car, but I hope they aren't bad enough to justify SSR3.

and then the microfiber towels that u just posed the link 2 please help me and correct me if any of this is wrong

If you're going to order some of the supremes, there is a "7 for 6" deal and "12 for 10" deal, so check those out before ordering a bunch of them individually.

I called Patrick's attention to this thread, so if you have any specific questions, he can help you.

Mr Detailer · Jun 9, 2006

FYI, I believe I've only used SSR3 twice. This is one of the vehicles that absolutely required it.

After SSR3/rotary and SSR2.5/PC:

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 9, 2006

Mr Detailer said:
That's the right polisher, yes. It does come with a backing plate, which is a non-flexible 6" backing plate. The Propel backing plates are flexible urethane, and are thin. Thicker backing plates pose more risk of contacting the surface while polishing curved areas of the car. I would still buy the 6" backing plate, but the factory one will work if you don't want to buy another one.

Is it worth buying the Excel 6" backing or is the Propel one fine?

Yes. I'd recommend you get these two:
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=ALL&pd=273398&recview=131
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?ref=exceldetail&ct=ALL&pd=273401&recview=131
Use the orange pad first with SSR2.5, and then follow up with either green + SSR2, or green + SSR2.5.

ok great im gunna get both of those pads

Are you getting the Poorboy's wax (Nattys) or are you just referring to SSR2/2.5? Those are polishes, not waxes. Those two polishes are usually adequate for the average car. I haven't seen pictures of the swirls on your car, but I hope they aren't bad enough to justify SSR3.

Yes your right on this sorry i meant polish i am going to use P21S Carnuba Wax because i really like it. Unless you think the Nattys is much better?

If you're going to order some of the supremes, there is a "7 for 6" deal and "12 for 10" deal, so check those out before ordering a bunch of them individually.

thank you i did see this

I called Patrick's attention to this thread, so if you have any specific questions, he can help you.

Ok im not sure who Patrick is but im sure i will b thankful lol

Thanks for all of your help man I really do appreciate it very much

vcinsanity1523 · Jun 9, 2006

Mr Detailer said:
FYI, I believe I've only used SSR3 twice. This is one of the vehicles that absolutely required it.

After SSR3/rotary and SSR2.5/PC:

WOW thats just incredible the difference ya i figured i would never need the SSR3

Mr Detailer · Jun 9, 2006

vcinsanity1523 said:
Ok im not sure who Patrick is but im sure i will b thankful lol

Patrick is the owner of ExcelDetail.

Albert said:
Hey Mr Detailer ... check out this link - it gives you lots of props from me and others and a few curses for getting us all addicted to the Porter Cable!

Again let me say thanks. This was the thread that made me realize that my finish wasn't nearly as good as it could be.

Out of curiosity, do you prefer applying polish, then wax or wax, then polish?

I love that color, and yours looks exceptionally nice. (2thumbs)

Polish by definition is a product that is abrasive, one that is meant to correct imperfections in the surface. Using a true polish after waxing would remove the wax, so that wouldn't make any sense. Polish before wax.

Be11ydawg · Jun 9, 2006

Mr. Detail, does Excel Detailing offer discounts for Detail City or Autopia members?

Thanks,

Mr Detailer · Jun 9, 2006

To my knowledge, there is no discount available, but he sends you a refund of any money that you were charged for shipping if the actual cost was lower. That is somewhat of a discount in itself, because most places charge you twice as much as it actually costs to ship your package.

julius77 · Jun 19, 2006

I appreciate all the post in this thread. I have gained some valuable knowledge. Thanks vcinsanity for posting and picking Mr. Detailer's brain, it helped with making my selection. Here is the list of what I purchased:

12 for 10 Blue Supreme deal $ 24.90
Pure Australian Medium Sheepskin Washmit $ 6.29
Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection (Polymer) $ 21.89
Excel Monterey Waffle Weave Drying Towel $ 10.49
6'' Propel Backing Plate $ 15.99
Nattys Blue Paste Wax 8oz. $ 15.49
Poorboys World SSR2 - Medium /Light Abrasive (16 oz) $ 12.89
Poorboys World SSR2.5 - Medium Abrasive (16 oz) $ 12.89
P2 Orange 6.75'' Medium Cut Versatile Pad $ 10.49
P2 Green 6.75'' Medium Polishing Pad $ 9.29:

I also purchased this yesterday:
Sonus Block Detailing SON-3100-2 1 16.99
Sonus Glyde Detailing SON-300 1 7.99

My anniversary is coming up on Friday, so I had the lady pick me up the PC (nana)

(bluemp3)

julius77 · Jun 19, 2006

(headbang)Aand a big shout out to Mr. Detailer(headbang)

Mr Detailer · Jun 19, 2006

Yesterday's pleasure...

Work in progress:

Finished:

Wash with Top of the Line Bubble Bath and Excel heavy sheepskin mitt
Dry with Excel Monterey WW towel
Tires cleaned with Poorboy's APC 10:1 and Meguiars Versa-Angle tire brush
Wheels sprayed with P21s liquid wheel cleaner and then washed with Excel medium sheepskin mitt + TOL Bubble Bath, dried with Excel RipTide mini-WW
Tires dressed with Poorboy's Natural Look
Poorboy's Spray and Gloss on wheels
Poorboy's Trim Restorer on trim, door handles, splash guards
Meguiars PlastX on headlights
Clearkote Vanilla Moose on glass

Poorboy's SSR2.5 x2 with yellow Propel2 pad
Poorboy's SSR2.5 with orange Propel pad
Clearkote Vanilla Moose by hand via blue Propel Turbo pad on a Wolfgang Polishin' Pal
Nattys paste wax by hand with blue Propel Turbo

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