was "eventually" wanting more lip, but needed to stay with a 17 since i just bought new tires 2 months ago and may have trouble with 18's on my 1.8" drop goldlines anyway. so i went to a local wheel shop to "look" with some friends and got peer-pressured into buying these motegi dp10's. very nice wheel and lip for 17's and dont weigh much more (18.5 lbs) than my falkens did (17.5 lbs). still unsure though, i guess they're growing on me, have to get used to them. i think they'll look a whole lot better once i get an excelerated concepts carbon fiber hood on in the next month or so......oppinions please... you can see my old wheels in my sig