GM Synchromesh is teh ROCK!!!!

I didnt put this in my Mazdaspeed6 yet, so basically you guys are saying dont do it? I actually dont really have any complaints on how the the car shifts right now, where as the honda was notchy especially in the cold.
 
For all you fans of Red Line ShockProof oils, have you actually read the information on their website? They clearly state these oils are not recommended for synchro application as they are too slippery for proper synchro engagement.

Red Line recommends MT-90 as having the appropriate coefficient of friction for most manual transmission synchronizers. As this is a 75W-90, API GL-4 Service rated oil, it's the oil of choice for our transmissions (if you're looking for a true synthetic, and assuming that you want the Red Line brand) as specified in the FSM.
 
But You Need To Find A Balance Between Mt Oil And Gear Oil Because The Differential Is Housed In The Trans. Adding Friction Modifier Is Going To Increase The Slipperiness Of The Fluid And Shockproof Thickens With Heat, Which Helps Reduce Slipping... If You Are Truely Worried Use Heavy Shockproof.
 
ive had redline shockproof lightweight in mine for over 40k miles now. put it in when i first bought the car, night and day difference, used it in my se-r and it makes a big difference and proven performance as far as protection of the gears. I havent had a problem with it at all.
 
Yes.. they say it is too slippery, but if it WAS too slippery for this application then people would grind gears and have problem etc... but it is not an issue for these transmissions. But yes I have read the recommendations but several years of running it and I continue to swear by it and more and more people are getting there as well.

Thanks!

Steve
 
TurfBurn said:
for reference... use synchromesh if you want to detonate your transmission if you make more than 250 whp. Pretty much every trans that has popped so far during normal driving had synchromesh in it... I still stand by Redline Shockproof lightweight and heavyweight.

Later!

Steve

Is all the shockproof lightweight the same weight? I have to use pretty much force sometimes specially when trying to shift kind of fast into second. Right now I use the redline mt-90 and I have kartboy bushings. Do you think the shockproof would help?

Is this it says it is 30w? http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RED%2D58404&N=700+4294925094+4294920362+4294872961+115&autoview=sku
 
well there is superlightweight, lightweight, and heavy weight. Those are the different weights. I recommend lightweight sometimes reinforced with heavyweight. Most people find it helps the 1-2 shift a bit... and gets "better" with warmth rather than worse like most find with other fluids.

later,

Steve
 
TurfBurn said:
well there is superlightweight, lightweight, and heavy weight. Those are the different weights. I recommend lightweight sometimes reinforced with heavyweight. Most people find it helps the 1-2 shift a bit... and gets "better" with warmth rather than worse like most find with other fluids.

later,

Steve

So your saying use some heavy weight and some of the light weight if so how much of each?
 
Two things, and before you flame me, remember I didn't come up with this info firsthand...

1) On Syncromesh- I ran the Pennzoil for a while. Wasn't impressed. I actually swapped for RP after a guy on here (who isn't around much) forwarded me some emails where he was talking with a Pennzoil tech, and the tech said do NOT run that product in our transmissions. IIRC it was apparently designed for a specific application and will not work well with some of the metals used in our tranny and/or synchros. If in doubt, shoot an email to Pennzoil and see if you get confirmation on this. It's easier than a tranny swap.

2) On Redline Shockproof- I'm no expert on tranny oils, but we have a guy on the 323/GTX boards who has spent a big chunk of the last few years researching them in an effort to find out what works best to prolong the life of the rare and expensive GTX trannies and diffs. He concluded (and apparently with confirmation from Redline) that Shockproof is meant as a racing fluid that will be quite frequently changed. It's evidently good stuff, but he warned all of us that the same thing that makes Shockproof good at what it does (tons of calcium particles), is also what limits its long term use. After these calcium particles get crushed absorbing the shock, you're left with, in his words, "pisswater". He said that the Redline guys told him that only specialized analysis can tell you if it's still good or not, so most teams change it very frequently to be safe. I think they recommended the MTL, and that may be what he settled on. Redline makes good s***. Food for thought, though. Again, if in doubt, check with Redline and see what they say. I wouldn't take any single person's opinion on this forum over what the manufacturer of the product says unless there was a solid argument for it.

Hope that helps.
 
can any one comment on AMSOIL? they have a few MTF's and I am not sure which one I am supposed to use? I want smoother shifting as well as the protection of me gears and LSD. I am a NOOB when it comes to tranny's and how the fluids in them work.

here is a link to there site
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=45

any insight would be apprecaited as I need to replace my tanny fluid since it has never been changed and I have 75,000 miles on my car. the car is also getting a new Exedy stage 1 clutch. I currently have a TWM SS and Kartboy shifter bushings. Any to the point suggestions on what fluid if not AMSOIL would also be apprecaited.

thanks,
Adam
 
I run synchromesh in my msp. I have had it in over 5k miles and never had a problem, its smooth as hell, and no more rough shifting. It has pleased me ever since I put it in I have felt a big change that was good in my tranny. My friend who is on the forums has it in his and he likes it to. So many different opinions on this matter but I say that synchromesh is maybe not the best but its worked out for me and my friend.
 
gm and penzoil are the only 2 companies to make it and its the exact same thing..syncromesh is a type of fluid, so the brand is really unimportant..both will run you between7-9 bux a qt
 
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