GM small seven-seat van (Chevy Orlando, merged)
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- 2008 Mazda5 Touring
Definitely Rondo-esque. The side mirrors especially. I don't really see anything about it that appeals. We are so used to the sliding doors, it'd be hard to change back with kids.
Rockin03mp5
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- '13 Mazda3 / '13 Edge / Your Mom
that thing looks bloated.
that chevy emblem on the grill is bigger than the front licence plate. wow. i get it... its a freakin chevy.
(mazda has been doing the same thing too... )
that chevy emblem on the grill is bigger than the front licence plate. wow. i get it... its a freakin chevy.
(mazda has been doing the same thing too... )
My wife says that the only difference is that the Chevy logo is a bold bronze/gold and sticks out. The Mazda logo is big but it's just a few strokes of chrome.
Something tells me I'll be hated if I buy this car.
http://media.gm.ca/content/media/ca...s/ca/en/2011/Jan/11MAS/chevrolet/0113_Orlando
Something tells me I'll be hated if I buy this car.
http://media.gm.ca/content/media/ca...s/ca/en/2011/Jan/11MAS/chevrolet/0113_Orlando
IMO, it's really ugly. it's got that same problem ALL the chevies have now, those mail slot windows! I drove in a friends HHR and I felt like I was in a cardboard box, peeking out the lid.
I don't like the black plastic wheel opening trim either. mazda does this on the CX-9 and I hate it!
I too like the sliders on the mazda. I won't be pining for the orlando. (when you say it, say it like Fernando would... or-LAAHN-do)
I don't like the black plastic wheel opening trim either. mazda does this on the CX-9 and I hate it!
I too like the sliders on the mazda. I won't be pining for the orlando. (when you say it, say it like Fernando would... or-LAAHN-do)
Took a look at this car, it is great all around, I'd really consider buying one. Only gripe... there's no room behind the third row seats. Maybe for a flimsy umbrella stroller. But the top of the line LTZ is nice with auto headlights and auto climate control, nice leather, nice interior overall, 18" rims, and yes, a six speed manual transmission. Oddly though, no sunroof.
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- 2008 Mazda5 Touring
Is is less than the 5? From the picture above, the spare tire lid looks to be as deep as what we have. No?
It is, but the seats are reclined back a lot more than the 5, so my Joovy Caboose won't fit back there unlike the 5. But maybe when we have 7 people in the car, we could assume that there is always at least one person willing to carry the baby, and we can have an umbrella stroller for the older one.
The Orlando is not coming until later this year though. Pricing information will be released sometime this spring.
The Orlando is not coming until later this year though. Pricing information will be released sometime this spring.
Pricing has been released with the expected feature list, the Mazda 5 can breathe a sigh of relief.
LS is $19,995. 6 speed manual, standard features include power windows, power door locks, keyless, Onstar, XM radio, MP3 capable CD player with auxiliary input. A/C is $1,250 extra. No automatic transmission for the LS. Steering wheel tilts only, wheels are 16" steel with covers, door handles are black, and centre console is open with no armrests.
1LT is $22,295, adds standard A/C, cruise control, telescoping steering wheel, heated mirrors, fold down driver's armrest, centre console with lid, and colour keyed door handles. 6 speed automatic transmission is $1,450 extra. Other options include 16" alloy wheels, remote start, TPMS, vehicle interface package, and cargo management.
2LT is $24,895, adds standard Bluetooth, steering wheel audio controls, fog lights, USB port, leather wrapped steering wheel, 16" alloy wheels with TPMS. 6 speed automatic still extra, as are 18" alloy wheels, remote start, power six way drivers seat, heated seats, rear park assist, sunroof, and cargo management.
The LTZ is a mind boggling $29,735, adds standard 6 speed automatic transmission, heated seats, automatic climate control, automatic lights, automatic wipers, 18" wheels, rear parking sensors, automatic lights. Options include leather seats, navigation, and sunroof, makes us wonder at $29,735 the Orlando should include ALL of that, but with those options the Orlando jumps up to $33,340.
All Orlandos come with a 2.4L 174HP direct injected engine, Stabillitrak, and have a rated fuel economy of 10.1/6.7 L/100km city/hwy with the manual and 10.6/6.9 for the auto. The Mazda 5 has the Orlando slightly beat on city fuel economy.
Mazda 5 for example starts at $21,795 for the GS which features standard air conditioning with automatic climate control, automatic lights, automatic intermittent wipers, steering wheel audio controls, 16" alloy wheels, telescoping steering wheel, colour keyed door handles, armrests for everyone, as well as the other Chevy Orlando LS features except OnStar and Stabilitrak, as well as one less seat and 17 less horses. Plus you can get an automatic transmission on the GS for just $1,200 and add the Convenience Package for $845 which includes Bluetooth with Stereo music profile, cruise control, trip computer, steering wheel controls, and anti-theft alarm system.
In essence, a Mazda 5 GS has more features than the 2LT except for the fog lights and TPMS, but is $2,255 cheaper with the manual, $2,505 cheaper with the auto.
Also for $500 less than the 2LT ($24,395), you can step up to the Mazda 5 GT which adds standard Convenience Package, 17" wheels, TPMS, side sills and spoiler, HID head lights, fog lights, and heated mirrors. The most expensive Mazda 5 GT you can get is with the automatic transmission for $1200 and Luxury Package for $1790 which includes leather seats, fold out 2nd row tray, and moonroof for $27,385. No navigation or rear assist but meh.
Competition is good but it's like Chevrolet is setting up the Orlando for failure, giving room for sales (employee pricing, etc.), or just giving consumers wiggle room to haggle.
LS is $19,995. 6 speed manual, standard features include power windows, power door locks, keyless, Onstar, XM radio, MP3 capable CD player with auxiliary input. A/C is $1,250 extra. No automatic transmission for the LS. Steering wheel tilts only, wheels are 16" steel with covers, door handles are black, and centre console is open with no armrests.
1LT is $22,295, adds standard A/C, cruise control, telescoping steering wheel, heated mirrors, fold down driver's armrest, centre console with lid, and colour keyed door handles. 6 speed automatic transmission is $1,450 extra. Other options include 16" alloy wheels, remote start, TPMS, vehicle interface package, and cargo management.
2LT is $24,895, adds standard Bluetooth, steering wheel audio controls, fog lights, USB port, leather wrapped steering wheel, 16" alloy wheels with TPMS. 6 speed automatic still extra, as are 18" alloy wheels, remote start, power six way drivers seat, heated seats, rear park assist, sunroof, and cargo management.
The LTZ is a mind boggling $29,735, adds standard 6 speed automatic transmission, heated seats, automatic climate control, automatic lights, automatic wipers, 18" wheels, rear parking sensors, automatic lights. Options include leather seats, navigation, and sunroof, makes us wonder at $29,735 the Orlando should include ALL of that, but with those options the Orlando jumps up to $33,340.
All Orlandos come with a 2.4L 174HP direct injected engine, Stabillitrak, and have a rated fuel economy of 10.1/6.7 L/100km city/hwy with the manual and 10.6/6.9 for the auto. The Mazda 5 has the Orlando slightly beat on city fuel economy.
Mazda 5 for example starts at $21,795 for the GS which features standard air conditioning with automatic climate control, automatic lights, automatic intermittent wipers, steering wheel audio controls, 16" alloy wheels, telescoping steering wheel, colour keyed door handles, armrests for everyone, as well as the other Chevy Orlando LS features except OnStar and Stabilitrak, as well as one less seat and 17 less horses. Plus you can get an automatic transmission on the GS for just $1,200 and add the Convenience Package for $845 which includes Bluetooth with Stereo music profile, cruise control, trip computer, steering wheel controls, and anti-theft alarm system.
In essence, a Mazda 5 GS has more features than the 2LT except for the fog lights and TPMS, but is $2,255 cheaper with the manual, $2,505 cheaper with the auto.
Also for $500 less than the 2LT ($24,395), you can step up to the Mazda 5 GT which adds standard Convenience Package, 17" wheels, TPMS, side sills and spoiler, HID head lights, fog lights, and heated mirrors. The most expensive Mazda 5 GT you can get is with the automatic transmission for $1200 and Luxury Package for $1790 which includes leather seats, fold out 2nd row tray, and moonroof for $27,385. No navigation or rear assist but meh.
Competition is good but it's like Chevrolet is setting up the Orlando for failure, giving room for sales (employee pricing, etc.), or just giving consumers wiggle room to haggle.
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- 2008 Mazda5 5MT Sport w/ Popular Package
Yes, the reviews kind of hint of the nice features, but also the rougher side. If it were sold down here I'll definitely give it a test-drive (6MT!), but the looks are not just there, too boxy, too SUVish.
AutoGuide: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123802367-2012-Chevrolet-Orlando-Review
Auto123: http://www.auto123.com/en/chevrolet/orlando/2012/review?carid=1121205000&artid=134420
I test drove the Orlando a week ago. Here are my initial thoughts:
Performance:
The dealer only had Orlandos with the 6 speed automatic in stock, I've never driven an automatic 5 so I can't compare but it seems peppy enough for the city. The transmission is smooth although it had trouble figuring out which gear to be in when I was somewhere between relaxed throttle and full throttle. During my test drive where we were stuck at a lot of red lights and dealt with a bit of traffic, the observed fuel economy was 11.5L/100km or 20 MPG. The fuel consumption meter did have an LPH mode -- litres per hour, and at idle the car used 1.3 LPH. Under acceleration, this jumped to around 13 LPH and maintaining 70 km/h required between 4 and 4.5 LPH -- just shy over 6L/100km or 39MPG. The fuel consumption computer is apparently 3% optimistic but still it seems like maintaining the rated 6.9L/100km or 34 MPG with the 6 speed auto if you're doing about 100km/h pretty attainable. The 6 speed manual does a bit better at 6.7L/100km or 35 MPG. City consumption is rated for 10.6L/100km with the automatic and 10.1L/100km with the manual. The 2012 Mazda 5 in comparison is rated at 9.5L/100km in the city and 6.7L/100km in the highway with their five speed automatic. Makes you wonder if Chevrolet should've been able to manage a good advantage with their direct injection engine.
Handling:
There was a bit of body roll that made me not want to do the types of right turns I do in my Mazda 5, but it is not Corolla bad either. Pretty smooth ride overall.
Exterior:
You either hate it or love it. I think it looks fine as a family vehicle, some people thinks it looks like an oversized light bulb. The reverse light is a single light on the middle of the bumper. Although nice and oversized, it sure is an oddity.
Interior:
Pretty good and reasonably laid out, although I found the audio and HVAC dials too small. It was hard to figure out what the steering wheel controls do, and automatic climate control is only available on the top of the line LTZ. The seats are plush which a majority of people may like but my body does not like plush seats as after an hour the back of my upper legs do get numb. Just half an hour into the test drive, I could see my legs getting there. The conversation mirror is a great feature, as with the hidden console behind the stereo controls where you can put your iPhone, wallet, etc. The auxiliary and USB input is inside this hidden console. The best part was the third row, while the leg room like the Mazda 5 is really not there for my 6'1" 205 lb figure and not deep enough causing my knees to extend nearly a foot above my torso, there is a lot of head room back there. Not bad considering with the stadium style seating, the 3rd row is the highest up.
Overall:
It's nice that the Mazda 5 has a second competitor, at least in Canada. The Orlando is a good car who needs the extra seat in the 2nd row but does not want the Kia Rondo. It's not a car to turn heads, but its conservative style shouldn't turn people off either. Aside from its minor little quirks, it should be a good enough car for a lot of families looking for a small, fuel efficient people hauler.
Performance:
The dealer only had Orlandos with the 6 speed automatic in stock, I've never driven an automatic 5 so I can't compare but it seems peppy enough for the city. The transmission is smooth although it had trouble figuring out which gear to be in when I was somewhere between relaxed throttle and full throttle. During my test drive where we were stuck at a lot of red lights and dealt with a bit of traffic, the observed fuel economy was 11.5L/100km or 20 MPG. The fuel consumption meter did have an LPH mode -- litres per hour, and at idle the car used 1.3 LPH. Under acceleration, this jumped to around 13 LPH and maintaining 70 km/h required between 4 and 4.5 LPH -- just shy over 6L/100km or 39MPG. The fuel consumption computer is apparently 3% optimistic but still it seems like maintaining the rated 6.9L/100km or 34 MPG with the 6 speed auto if you're doing about 100km/h pretty attainable. The 6 speed manual does a bit better at 6.7L/100km or 35 MPG. City consumption is rated for 10.6L/100km with the automatic and 10.1L/100km with the manual. The 2012 Mazda 5 in comparison is rated at 9.5L/100km in the city and 6.7L/100km in the highway with their five speed automatic. Makes you wonder if Chevrolet should've been able to manage a good advantage with their direct injection engine.
Handling:
There was a bit of body roll that made me not want to do the types of right turns I do in my Mazda 5, but it is not Corolla bad either. Pretty smooth ride overall.
Exterior:
You either hate it or love it. I think it looks fine as a family vehicle, some people thinks it looks like an oversized light bulb. The reverse light is a single light on the middle of the bumper. Although nice and oversized, it sure is an oddity.
Interior:
Pretty good and reasonably laid out, although I found the audio and HVAC dials too small. It was hard to figure out what the steering wheel controls do, and automatic climate control is only available on the top of the line LTZ. The seats are plush which a majority of people may like but my body does not like plush seats as after an hour the back of my upper legs do get numb. Just half an hour into the test drive, I could see my legs getting there. The conversation mirror is a great feature, as with the hidden console behind the stereo controls where you can put your iPhone, wallet, etc. The auxiliary and USB input is inside this hidden console. The best part was the third row, while the leg room like the Mazda 5 is really not there for my 6'1" 205 lb figure and not deep enough causing my knees to extend nearly a foot above my torso, there is a lot of head room back there. Not bad considering with the stadium style seating, the 3rd row is the highest up.
Overall:
It's nice that the Mazda 5 has a second competitor, at least in Canada. The Orlando is a good car who needs the extra seat in the 2nd row but does not want the Kia Rondo. It's not a car to turn heads, but its conservative style shouldn't turn people off either. Aside from its minor little quirks, it should be a good enough car for a lot of families looking for a small, fuel efficient people hauler.
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