Geneva: Mazda3 MPS and Mazda3 refresh press release and pics

[cboe's_mp5]

man i really want one. i cant wait

 

[oldzoomer]

i wonder how much it is going to cost????\


i really want to be the first person in everett to get one.

The magazines are saying $25,000. This is about $2000 more than a Grand Touring with moonroof, bose, and navi. Start saving your pennies now.

 

[AFwestPunk]

phuk that it better try and compete with the Civic SI! they run to about 21k in Va

 

[MightyMouse]

phuk that it better try and compete with the Civic SI! they run to about 21k in Va

Why? They are not even in the same league. The Si only has 197 HP, is a coupe instead of a wagon, and the Civic interior looks like ass! I would be willing to spend a $4-5000 premium over the Civic.

 

[MightyMouse]

The magazines are saying $25,000. This is about $2000 more than a Grand Touring with moonroof, bose, and navi. Start saving your pennies now.

Cool, my VISA limit just got raised again, and high enough to pay for the MS3! Always freaks a dealer out when you just slap the car on your credit card! (shocked) He he

 

[rbmazda3]

The magazines are saying $25,000. This is about $2000 more than a Grand Touring with moonroof, bose, and navi. Start saving your pennies now.

I'm guessing they are going to be up there in price. I was just at the dealership looking at the Mazdaspeed 6. There's some sticker shock for you! 36K with a 2.5K "Market Adustment" Gotta love the "Market Adjustment" Why don't they just call it coolness factor adjustment!! Anyhow...the bottom line on the 6 was 38.5K. That's a lot of doughmeal to throw down on a Mazda. For that kind of money I'd go with a Acura TL.

 

[CHICO2003]

That "market adjustment" nonsense is the biggest bunch of BS. Mazda should be ashamed of themselves for even trying to pull some crap. Talk to any (cool) salesman there and they'll tell you the same. If you're interested in the MS6, ignore that as well as the sticker... those cars aren't selling well anywhere (for some reason) so you should be able to get one for well under sticker.

 

[CHICO2003]

Cool, my VISA limit just got raised again, and high enough to pay for the MS3! Always freaks a dealer out when you just slap the car on your credit card! (shocked) He he

LMAO You're kidding right? Unless your intention is to pay it off at the end of the month (or after the 6-12 months worth of 0% some cards give you for signing up) paying for something like this on a CC is beyond idiotic. Hmm... 20+% apr vs 4-6%?

 

[CHICO2003]

Why? They are not even in the same league. The Si only has 197 HP, is a coupe instead of a wagon, and the Civic interior looks like ass! I would be willing to spend a $4-5000 premium over the Civic.

This is true. Though, with the absense of AWD, the disparity isn't quite as great as you might think. Bear in mind that HP isn't everything. Has the weight been published? I've got a bad feeling this thing's gonna be on the portly side. (even without the awd) Compared to the Civic, not only is it 4 doors but it's also a wagon so that alone will make a difference. Truth be told, Mazda must've been sniffin glue when they decided to go with the wagon version. Weight and looks obviously play a key role in a "performance (oriented) car". While it may not be a huge difference, every little bit helps. I'm sure it'll still be a great car but just think how much better it could have been.

Think about it like this.... the SRT-4 and the PT/GT Cruiser have the same everything... except the PT is obviously a wagon of sorts. Hmm... which one do you think is faster? Which one did more people flock to the dealer to buy? Which one handles better, looks..... well, ok, maybe they both look like ass but the SRT-4 at least CAN look decent if you chop the wing, ditch the fugly wheels and lower it. The PT Loser on the other hand... no hope. But that's sort've how I see (to a far lesser extent) the 3 wagon and this caliber they're coming out with. awkward styling elements abound... gone are the "clean lines" of the msp and 3 sedan in favor of misguided edges and an overall lack of any fluidity.

For my money, though it may not be as fast... the new GTI may be my next ride. Styling wise... tough to beat.

 

[ZoomVT]

LMAO You're kidding right? Unless your intention is to pay it off at the end of the month (or after the 6-12 months worth of 0% some cards give you for signing up) paying for something like this on a CC is beyond idiotic. Hmm... 20+% apr vs 4-6%?

I dont agree with you man. I dont know what kind of APR you get on your credit cards but i have a fixed 3.9% rate on my cards, included my discover and amex cards. If i were to put the car on my discover i would get 3% back, so im getting a discount plust the rewards points it collects, and the same with the AMEX, no discount but sweet reward points. I dont see how it would be idiotic to put it in the card. Even if you had a higher APR, you could pay it at the end of the month and still reap the benefits of the discountand the reward points. I highly doubt Mazda NA can offer you a better rate than 3.9%

 

[goldwing2000]

Even if you had a higher APR, you could pay it at the end of the month and still reap the benefits of the discountand the reward points.

That's about the only way to benefit. The difference is the type of interest you pay. With a car loan, you pay simple interest. With a credit card, you pay compound interest. In the end, you pay a lot more for the same balance on a credit card.

I highly doubt Mazda NA can offer you a better rate than 3.9%

I think that's exactly the rate I got when I bought mine. It's paid off now, though. (thumb)

Oops... off topic.

awkward styling elements abound... gone are the "clean lines" of the msp and 3 sedan in favor of misguided edges and an overall lack of any fluidity.

I disagree. Personally, I like the lines of the 5-door better. It all comes down to personal preference. Just because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't make it a bad choice on Mazda's part.

 

[ZoomVT]

you are right goldwing. i would still do it for the discount and rewards.
and i also got 3.9 from mazda NA. not a bad deal at all.

 

[mikeyb]

2007 Mazdaspeed 3

Mazda's hotrod 3 has more than 250 hp, front-wheel drive, and a limited-slip differential. We're bracing ourselves for the torque-steer.

BY RAY HUTTON
PHOTOGRAPHY BY MIKE VALENTE
March 2006
To celebrate the successful and well-regarded Mazda 3's three-year mid-cycle refresh, Mazda is introducing the Mazdaspeed 3. This hotted-up 3 combines the turbocharged 2.3-liter DISI direct-injection four-cylinder engine (making more than 250 hp in this guise) from the long-delayed Mazaspeed 6 with the 3's smaller five-door hatchback body and front-wheel drive only (the Mazdaspeed 6 has all-wheel drive). Top speed is limited to 155 mph and Mazda claims a 6.1-second time for 0-100 km/h (62 mph). The suspension setup is significantly stiffer than the standard 3's (which is already no marshmallow), but it remains to be seen how well this chassis will handle the massive 280 lb-ft of torque; the few European hatchbacks with this amount of twist are pretty unruly, especially when equipped, as this Mazda is, with a limited-slip differential. We're bracing ourselves for the torque-steer.

source:http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/10707/2007-mazdaspeed-3.html

 

[goldwing2000]

you are right goldwing. i would still do it for the discount and rewards.

Hell yeah! That's $250 in Cabela Bucks!

Here's what I would do:
Secure financing from an outside source.
Purchase with credit card.
Pay off credit card with funds from initial financing!

Score! (first)

Top speed is limited to 155 mph...

*sigh* I never get tired of hearing that. (nana)

 

[CHICO2003]

That's about the only way to benefit. The difference is the type of interest you pay. With a car loan, you pay simple interest. With a credit card, you pay compound interest. In the end, you pay a lot more for the same balance on a credit card.


I think that's exactly the rate I got when I bought mine. It's paid off now, though. (thumb)

Oops... off topic.


I disagree. Personally, I like the lines of the 5-door better. It all comes down to personal preference. Just because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't make it a bad choice on Mazda's part.

I guess I should have prefaced what I said. Obviously the interest rate of the given card plays a key role. I've never heard of a card offering 3.9% throughout the life of the card (plenty of them have low introductory rates) but that doesn't mean much. Obviously 3.9% is very good and, with the rewards, makes the CC option a good one.

If you re-read my post, you'll realize I was obviously referring to the cards that have 20+% (in fact, I actually mentioned that) So I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me... you clearly agree.


As far as the 3 wagon vs sedan go... While which one looks "better" is obviously subjective, whether or not a car has "clean lines" is not. Nobody can argue (and win) that the wagon has a cleaner look than the sedan. It simply doesn't. There are lots of edges that, while some obviously like, I do not. But more importantly than that, as I already mentioned, going with a 5 vs 4 door only raises the weight that much more. weight is our enemy guys. more and more cars these days are rollin off the assembly line lookin as if they just came from the buffet. Obviously, in terms of sheer speed, as long as you have the hp it doesn't matter that much. but what about handling dynamics and braking? hp won't do s*** for you there.

Again.... i'm not sure if the difference is that much so maybe it's moot. All I know is, the WRX sedan performs far better than the WRX wagon. as does the SRT-4 vs the PT Cruiser (GT). Enough ****** said.

 

[ZoomVT]

er i know you meant high interest rates. but as you also know, not every card does and you stating that idea as idiotic is unfair and harsh. Also, you state the apr to be 20% as if it was a fact of life, when it is the other way around in my experience. i have never had a card with higher than 12% and i was only aware of higher rates when my roommate showed me his 27% rate card. In any case, it is not idiotic to put it in the cc, but i wouldnt recommended unless you have a great rate. yes they do offer fixed 3.9% i have 3 cards with that rate.
As fars as the sedan vs wagon debate, i have stated my point many times before and i cannot stand the wagon design when there is a sedan available. If i were buying a wagon, i woul dget the 3 hatch, but i like the 3 better. I know that this is mostly subjective as we all have different tastes, however some of the things i dont like about the hatch are the lines of the car, very edgy when i would have preferred a more flowing design.

 

[goldwing2000]

I guess I should have prefaced what I said. Obviously the interest rate of the given card plays a key role. I've never heard of a card offering 3.9% throughout the life of the card (plenty of them have low introductory rates) but that doesn't mean much. Obviously 3.9% is very good and, with the rewards, makes the CC option a good one.

If you re-read my post, you'll realize I was obviously referring to the cards that have 20+% (in fact, I actually mentioned that) So I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me... you clearly agree.

(scratch) Ummm... I wasn't disagreeing with you about the CC issue. Heck, I wasn't even talking to you about the CC issue. ZoomVT was. And if you'll check, it's him that I quoted before my statement, not you.

If you can't keep up, take notes.

And as far as "clean lines"... yes, it's still subjective. Unless you're talking about actual coeffient of drag, what looks clean to one person may not look clean to another.

 

[CHICO2003]

LOL you're right... my bad. (I quoted the wrong guy. Sorry dude!)

But anywayz... this is stupid so I'm just gonna end it now. All 3 of us agree with eachother so there's really no point in arguing.

except about the clean lines thing... lol come on!! if one car has all these angles and another is smooth... you're trying to tell me it's subjective? take a look at the rear fender on the 3 hatch (while looking at it from the front) it's like a bony elbow or some s***. no one could say that's a clean line!

 

[goldwing2000]

*shrug* I like it.

It's like the difference between an F-117 and a B-2. Two ways to achieve the same goal.

 

[MightyMouse]

LMAO You're kidding right? Unless your intention is to pay it off at the end of the month (or after the 6-12 months worth of 0% some cards give you for signing up) paying for something like this on a CC is beyond idiotic. Hmm... 20+% apr vs 4-6%?

Who said I would carry the balance past the end of the month? You don't pay any interest if you pay off your balance at the end of every month. If you use your cards properly, it doesn't matter what the rate is.

Hmm, new car, plus enough travel points for a free flight anywhere in the world Sweet