G-series tranny

[shane02pro5]

Also PAR doesnt recommend cryotreating the shiftforks due to them becoming more brittle.

 

[klnut]

i understand that you do have to pay to play but dam i was looking for a get me by but if i was to go with par gears and there synchros with a welded diff what kinda power would it take if i was not been dumb with it?

 

[shane02pro5]

They are rated for 500hp. They also have a dogbox (larger stronger tooth profile) with no synchros since this is a track only car. They have a 735whp fs 323 using these but last I heard they blew but were for the first time going to put the bearing race brace on that tranny.

 

[klnut]

how much is the dogbox setup going for with the bearing brace?

 

[avarela86]

A LOT...I don't think it's worth it unless it's a dedicated race car

 

[klnut]

it is. it dont see any street time inless its getting tuned

 

[shane02pro5]

I know after I go back in and finish adding the quaife par crownwheel output shaft 5th gear and brace it will total about $7500 so I'd imagine the dogbox and everything else would be at least that or probably more.

Check with "kooldino" from Speedcircuit.net he is a vendor.

 

[avarela86]

wow...for the money you spent you could've looked into running a Honda tranny with similar gearing and done an adapter plate. Even with built gears i've seen three sets break already.

 

[shane02pro5]

Is that also using the brace? The brace seems vital and maybe it could even be helpful by itself. I'm sure they're not indestructible but they do have a warranty!

 

[Crazee D]

I was also thinking why not an adapter plate? For some more conventional tranny? Shoot, the focus boys talk about using a mix of Jag and Volvo parts to shoehorn in AWD!

And what brace is this of which you speaketh?

FYI, just to add to the discussion:

Here's some good info for you:
All g-series are created equal. Here is a quick list of cars the G-series comes in (and that this diff will work with):
87 Mazda 323 GT
90-94 Protege LX
91-94 Mercury Capri XR2
91-96 Escort GT, LX-E & Mercury Tracer
92-94 MX-3 GS (pos 1.8 v6)
93-97 MX-6 (both 4 and 6 cyl)
93-97 626 (both 4 & 6 cyl)
93-97 Probe (both 4 & 6 cyl)
95-98 Protege ES (1.8 dohc)
97-99 Kia Sephia (1.8 dohc)
97-present Ford Escort & ZX2's (i'm not sure of this but ppl tell me they use G-series too)
98-01 626 4 cyl (not sure about 6, i forgot if its a k-series)
01-03 Protege w/FS motor (2.0LX, ES, MP3, Protege5, MSP, and in 02' all DX and LX's got the 2.0 standard)

Basically any car with a 1.8 BP, 2.0 FS, or any K-series V6 has a G-series transmission, even the Miata. Theoretically you could swap the 6-speed Miata tranny guts into a FWD transmission (if it'll fit in the bellhousing).

from

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73862

(band)

 

[avarela86]

Nah AWD is a whole new territory and too much work body wise to run an axle under the car.