FSDE motor import motor

[95blkprobe]

the "jdm" fsde are the same engines we have. I have bought one to put in a friends car since his was a victim of the butterfly valve screw falling out. The motor came with no accessories or IM or exhaust manifold. I think it ended up being around 1300 for the low mileage FSDE

 

[HighSpeed]

I don't know, I can't find anything that says FSDE's were in JDM cars.....anywhere. And $1300 seems pretty freakin steep for a used FSDE.

 

[lyndonvang]

the "jdm" fsde are the same engines we have. I have bought one to put in a friends car since his was a victim of the butterfly valve screw falling out. The motor came with no accessories or IM or exhaust manifold. I think it ended up being around 1300 for the low mileage FSDE

The guy i talked to at the shop said that he's had customers buy and swap the JDM FSDE with no problems into their proteges. Has anyone try swapping one into a MSP? $1300.00 is pretty high. The one here is going for $795.00 and $100.00 for the core. Ill prob try to find one from a 01-03 protege from a junkyard if the JDM are no good with the MSP.

 

[lyndonvang]

you can probably get an OK one for 400-600 locally, but personally id get one and spend the extra $$$ to get it forged, then you barely have to think about blowing it again. at that point its more about your tranny going then your engine

Had my tranny rebuild about almost 2yrs ago so it should be good. Also got a brand new LSD at the same time, im on the list too. lol. I would love to go forge but dont have the $ to do that. Just want a MSP that will get me from point A to point B and back.

 

[95blkprobe]

even a rebuilt tranny with a lsd wont be able to efficiently hold high hp numbers.

 

[mildsalsa]

MSP-2003.5

just did this swap with a used one less then a month ago and its running fine. you can IM him for more details. He paid about 850 i believe for the engine.

 

[Outlawstar98]

Gosh people.... You have to use a 2000+ 626 or a 3rd Gen Protege motor. The Older FSDE's have different oil squirters (I think) It wont be the same motor. AND to add the crank isn't forged. And the only car with the FSDE in it, in japan is the 1999–2001 Mazda MPV (Japan) Which is the same as the 99+ motors stateside. Why go through all the work for the same thing? Just find a 2000+ 626 with a solid block and get it forged. I got a LONG BLOCK, not a shortblock, for about 1300$. But Mileage really doesn't matter that much if you are going to build it. Since it is going to be 100% redone anyways. And if you are still using the stock turbo don't worry about the trans blowing. Cause you shouldn't be getting that high with the GT25 anyways, not good for the turbo. But the Trans holds about 300HP and the only way to make it stronger is to get PAR gears.

 

[justanothermp5]

^or GTX gears

 

[HighSpeed]

Ok so there was a JDM car with the FSDE. When my build is done(prolly next year this time :-( ) I want to keep a a synchromesh tranny for sure. So GTX is on the list, although way down the list at this point.

 

[justanothermp5]

you can keep a syncromesh transmission with the PAR gears too, just FYI

 

[HKPRO5]

is there a how to on the GTX gears? or where can i find more info?

 

[HighSpeed]

you can keep a syncromesh transmission with the PAR gears too, just FYI

Yeah your right, but gtx gears are a fraction of the cost and I don't plan on making a tire burning monster, just a good SCCA/NASA car. But your right PAR has a nice synchromesh kit availible. I would also like to know about the gtx how-to because I am a DIY all freakin day long.

 

[justanothermp5]

ken at PG is the only place that i know that sells them...i would like the get them somewhere else (PG has insanely slow shipping) but i havent seen them listed anywhere else
and check the how to section, i think there's one on how to rebuild the transmission

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...y-s-How-to-Rebuild-Your-Transmission-(G15M-R)
there it is....doesnt have torque specs or any clearances...but its better then nothing i guess

 

[95blkprobe]

someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think you can still get the GTX gears from mazda.

 

[Outlawstar98]

^or GTX gears

GTX gears wont do anything. Still 300HP The issue with our trans is NOT the gears, its the case twisting. Par gears have more space for the teeth to move on eachother since they are straight cut. ANd the GTX and stock gears start to grab on the inside of the tooth, Par it grabs on the WHOLE tooth.

 

[HighSpeed]

Is there anyone that has and idea on where the slush box twists? maybe someone could build a brace that will help it not twist so much and have it hold up to alittle more torque. But I doubt it, it probably has to do with the structural integrity of the case and how it is manufactured. I want an extra tranny to f*** around with.

 

[Outlawstar98]

well you COULD build a custom tranny, only ALOT of money... lol

 

[justanothermp5]

GTX gears wont do anything. Still 300HP The issue with our trans is NOT the gears, its the case twisting. Par gears have more space for the teeth to move on eachother since they are straight cut. ANd the GTX and stock gears start to grab on the inside of the tooth, Par it grabs on the WHOLE tooth.

this sounds backwards....straight cut gears put more stress on the case not helical cut, thats how I understood it anyways

 

[03.5MSP]

Helical gears put more side load on the tranny causing it to twist, where as straight cut gears do not because of their design. PAR makes reinforcement cups for the tranny, but they are not cheap and require machining to make them fit.

 

[lyndonvang]

MSP-2003.5

just did this swap with a used one less then a month ago and its running fine. you can IM him for more details. He paid about 850 i believe for the engine.

Who did this swap?