FS-ZE engine

[waynebike]

I was lookin around today and i found the FS-ZE engine online for $1850!

site dosnt conatin much info, but im sure you could get more if you wanted to.

FS-ZE Engine

 

[KpaBap]

BP-T engine for $950.

Drool.

 

[Dexter]

FS-ZE and then no turbo

 

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

cant the fs-de be converted to a fs-ze just as easily as buying an fs-ze if the parts are obtainable?

 

[tritonheat1]

BP-T engine for $950.

Drool.

Sorry but that's for the 1st-gen protege's(90-94)

 

[KpaBap]

Sorry but that's for the 1st-gen protege's(90-94)

I know. The BPT will not fit into a Miata because the intake is on the wrong side and the distributor pokes through the firewall

It's still cheap.

 

[kcbhiw]

I know. The BPT will not fit into a Miata because the intake is on the wrong side and the distributor pokes through the firewall

It's still cheap.

Wrong....to an extent. A BPT will fit in the Miata. However, the distributor gets replaced with a CAS (Cam Angle Sensor). At that point, spark is controlled by the computer, not the dis, itself.

However, you are semi-correct about the intake manifold. Throtlle body is on the wrong side of the intake manifold to work in a Miata.

Remember, the BPT is nothing more than your standard BP with different pistons, cams, and manifolds. The basic engine will fit into a Miata with no problem whatsoever. Manifolds are available to turbo a BP (or make the BP-T work).

As far as the Miata goes, it's much more cost effective to turbo an every day BP.

 

[RAAZ227]

FS-ZE (thumb)

 

[KpaBap]

kcbhiw:

I was just saying that $950 is not a bad price at all for a BPT motor

I have seen the countless BPT-in-Miata threads on miataforum.com, it's more trouble than it's worth. I'll take a FMII any day.

 

[kcbhiw]

kcbhiw:

I was just saying that $950 is not a bad price at all for a BPT motor

Ahh...roger that.

I have seen the countless BPT-in-Miata threads on miataforum.com, it's more trouble than it's worth. I'll take a FMII any day.

Gotcha. Lots of good stuff there at miataforum.com. Agreed, it is, indeed, more trouble than it's worth.

 

[70]

cant the fs-de be converted to a fs-ze just as easily as buying an fs-ze if the parts are obtainable?

Yes, just have to find the parts that make the difference.

Cams, pistons and intake manifold, plus exhaust manifold.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

lets not forget that without a JSpec ECU and wiring harness that an FS-ZE conversion would be pretty fruitless

 

[Midnight22]

lets not forget that without a JSpec ECU and wiring harness that an FS-ZE conversion would be pretty fruitless

what if u did a stand-alone on it? or does it do nothing? can u turbo a fs-ze?

 

[70]

lets not forget that without a JSpec ECU and wiring harness that an FS-ZE conversion would be pretty fruitless

Well, that is OBDI so it would be fruitless.

Some sort of fuel and timing management would be better for the OBDII cars we have...

 

[70]

what if u did a stand-alone on it? or does it do nothing? can u turbo a fs-ze?

You can turbo anything, but the higher compression means less boost to stay safe. But that is MHO...

 

[Mustard97]

FS-ZE drooool....

 

[mazdamp3_18]

if you plan of doing a turbo stick with the fsde.... fsze has too high of a compression ratio...


i got ahold of a microtech engine management and i purchased the rally fsze in eric burmiesters rally car.... sunbelt performance built it.. which is the same company that builds the speedvision cars engines....

i plan on having all this in my mp3 by the 2nd week of december

eric had 138whp with the es ecu... so with my stand alone i think i will be able to get around 180 whp and maybe more...

watch out rsx :mad:

all this will be done for under 3 grand...
including 460cc injectors, denso fuel pump, clutch and flywheel.

i think this will be well worth it...

and on top of it my car will be even more rare since hardly anyone has a true fsze in their protege....

 

[70]

Well, technically you don't either...

You have a race motor, not a "ture FS-ZE."

But it still sounds cool...Good luck.

 

[mazdamp3_18]

well its a true fsze with a highly worked head
lol

 

[charles]

Wrong....to an extent. A BPT will fit in the Miata. However, the distributor gets replaced with a CAS (Cam Angle Sensor). At that point, spark is controlled by the computer, not the dis, itself.

However, you are semi-correct about the intake manifold. Throtlle body is on the wrong side of the intake manifold to work in a Miata.

Remember, the BPT is nothing more than your standard BP with different pistons, cams, and manifolds. The basic engine will fit into a Miata with no problem whatsoever. Manifolds are available to turbo a BP (or make the BP-T work).

As far as the Miata goes, it's much more cost effective to turbo an every day BP.

I thought that the oilpan / oil system was different between the Miata BP and longitudinal BP.