We have not seen any incresed wear with this pump set-up. We have been using the same pump for two racing seasons with no degredation. The improvements made are not done so to make it work at an elevated rate, only to make it work as it was initially designed (but was not able to due to manufacturing tolerances).
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We have not seen any incresed wear with this pump set-up. We have been using the same pump for two racing seasons with no degredation. The improvements made are not done so to make it work at an elevated rate, only to make it work as it was initially designed (but was not able to due to manufacturing tolerances).
fatti03msp
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just got my new oil pump in might be sending this out to you guys. Glad i saw this.
just got my new oil pump in might be sending this out to you guys. Glad i saw this.
Just PM me when you are ready and I will give you the details.
fatti03msp
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Just PM me when you are ready and I will give you the details.
will do, thanks
Also its a stupid Question but with the motor rebuild money is tight, i can do the external bypass valves later on when i get the money and use the modded pump by itself?
will do, thanks
Also its a stupid Question but with the motor rebuild money is tight, i can do the external bypass valves later on when i get the money and use the modded pump by itself?
You can use the blueprinted pump by itself and it will help some. I think there is one member out there who has done this. However, it really depends on how you will be using your motor.
We found that with continued mid to high RPM use (3500-6500) the stock bypass system caused problems with the oil system that lead to a degredation in oil pressure. If this is sustained, it causes detrimental bearing wear and leads to catastrophic failure (zoom, zoom, BOOM!).
If you will not be using your motor in this way then you might be alright with just the blueprinted oil pump.
If you want to upgrade to the external PRV later you can send your pump back in and for a fee I will convert it for use with the external PRV (currently the service to convert the pump is free with the purchase of the external PRV).
fatti03msp
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You can use the blueprinted pump by itself and it will help some. I think there is one member out there who has done this. However, it really depends on how you will be using your motor.
We found that with continued mid to high RPM use (3500-6500) the stock bypass system caused problems with the oil system that lead to a degredation in oil pressure. If this is sustained, it causes detrimental bearing wear and leads to catastrophic failure (zoom, zoom, BOOM!).
If you will not be using your motor in this way then you might be alright with just the blueprinted oil pump.
If you want to upgrade to the external PRV later you can send your pump back in and for a fee I will convert it for use with the external PRV (currently the service to convert the pump is free with the purchase of the external PRV).
ok cool thanks for the info, i thought the external PRV was something you could add with out messing with the oil pump. As of now my car is my DD and i will be doing alot of AutoX events with it. This was just something i wanted to get done while i have my motor out and i could send you guys a brand new oil pump to work on. With that being said what is your opinion? Should wait and get it all done at once or just go ahead with the blueprint for now?
Also lil off topic, do you guys ever run at BeaveRun?
ok cool thanks for the info, i thought the external PRV was something you could add with out messing with the oil pump. As of now my car is my DD and i will be doing alot of AutoX events with it. This was just something i wanted to get done while i have my motor out and i could send you guys a brand new oil pump to work on. With that being said what is your opinion? Should wait and get it all done at once or just go ahead with the blueprint for now?
Also lil off topic, do you guys ever run at BeaveRun?
Unfortunately the internal PRV is an integral part of the oil pump. Also, once the oil pump is converted for use with the external PRV it is essentially not able to be converted back.
I remember in one of the posts earlier in this thread Packerfan reported he was able to remove his oil pump with the motor in the car without too much trouble.
As far as your car, it just depends on how you are gong to use it....as I said we found the trouble with sustained mid to high range revs. I know many people on this forum have lost motors. However, I am sure it is from a variety of reasons.
As for BeaveRun, we have not run there to date. However, we are looking into doing some of the Super Touring races with the SCCA and I think they had a regoinal or National weekend there.....
fatti03msp
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Unfortunately the internal PRV is an integral part of the oil pump. Also, once the oil pump is converted for use with the external PRV it is essentially not able to be converted back.
I remember in one of the posts earlier in this thread Packerfan reported he was able to remove his oil pump with the motor in the car without too much trouble.
As far as your car, it just depends on how you are gong to use it....as I said we found the trouble with sustained mid to high range revs. I know many people on this forum have lost motors. However, I am sure it is from a variety of reasons.
As for BeaveRun, we have not run there to date. However, we are looking into doing some of the Super Touring races with the SCCA and I think they had a regoinal or National weekend there.....
I might just have to suck it up then and wait. Ill just buy a new pump and send it out to guys and get it all done at once. But check out the track day im trying to setup in my sig it would be great to have you guys come out if you are free.
Thanks for the info
I might just have to suck it up then and wait. Ill just buy a new pump and send it out to guys and get it all done at once. But check out the track day im trying to setup in my sig it would be great to have you guys come out if you are free.
Thanks for the info
OK, when you are ready PM me and I can give you the details. If you look through the thread you will see the recommendations for the block adapter, remote oil filter, and -10 lines that are needed for the whole project.
As for BeaveRun, do you have a date yet? We would have to check our schedule but might be an option...
fatti03msp
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OK, when you are ready PM me and I can give you the details. If you look through the thread you will see the recommendations for the block adapter, remote oil filter, and -10 lines that are needed for the whole project.
As for BeaveRun, do you have a date yet? We would have to check our schedule but might be an option...
ill shoot you a pm when im ready and let you know when we get a date set for the track day.
Well I can answer that if He does the pump and plugs up internal bypass then the answer is no external bypass would have to be done at same time.
Hey BTW, How's your car and system been running??
Oil system has been Great but car is laid up think I might have bent a valve or lets say I hope Youy have any nice worked heads laying around? Rob And thanks for asking
I'll have to check...I might have a head that came off an SCCA SSC Protege motor....can't remember if we used it for something or not...
Why do you think you bent a valve? Or should I say what happened when you "bent the valve"?
(drive2)
Just was doing some spirited driving coming home uphill grade fourth gear 50-60mph all of a sudden heavy what sounded like valve clanking to me could be worse will only know when I get head off. BTW no smoke smooth idle no overheating just noise these are supertech valves and heavy duty springs 1mm oversized. Any Thoughts
Hard to say without hearing it or where the noise is coming from. Hard to believe that it would be a valve. Have you had the valve cover off? Might be a valve spring. Could also be one of the valve clearance discs.Just was doing some spirited driving coming home uphill grade fourth gear 50-60mph all of a sudden heavy what sounded like valve clanking to me could be worse will only know when I get head off. BTW no smoke smooth idle no overheating just noise these are supertech valves and heavy duty springs 1mm oversized. Any Thoughts
Let me know when you find out more!
@MP3Racer:
One question... since I live overseas and shipping the pump to you could prove problematic, is it possible to buy the pressure relief valve with instructions for how to bypass? I can have that much done locally... though I would love to have the coating done, I'm not sure I could have the car laid-off that long...
One question... since I live overseas and shipping the pump to you could prove problematic, is it possible to buy the pressure relief valve with instructions for how to bypass? I can have that much done locally... though I would love to have the coating done, I'm not sure I could have the car laid-off that long...
Might be easier to just purchase new pump and have work done to extra pump and once it is done and back to you then put it in unless your motor is out already and you cant wait to put it back in. It is possible to do it in the car just a little harder. I have two pumps laying around if you are interested.
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