Ford Probe GT V6 swap??

[Autox MSP]

I was installing my clutch cable the other day with some help from some club members. One of them pointed out that the tranny on our cars looks identical to the probe GT he owned. Way the clutch line is and also the bleeder is located. I'm thinking would a 2.5L v6 from the probe/mx6 be possible drop in???
Those motors are smooth, powerful and one of the best sounding v6.

Anyone know if they could be swapped easliy like honda motors?

 

[alexlitov]

Your MSP is probably making more power than that V6 engine...

 

[jersey_emt]

I highly doubt it, plus you'd need a new ECU.

 

[Autox MSP]

i know it would need a new ecu and a wiring harness. I would like to know if the mounts are the same.

The probe GT makes 170hp from a 2.5L v6. Its more powerful then the msp. Besides the powertrain the the msp sucks.

 

[DZnutz]

I was installing my clutch cable the other day with some help from some club members. One of them pointed out that the tranny on our cars looks identical to the probe GT he owned. Way the clutch line is and also the bleeder is located. I'm thinking would a 2.5L v6 from the probe/mx6 be possible drop in???
Those motors are smooth, powerful and one of the best sounding v6.

Anyone know if they could be swapped easliy like honda motors?

let me be the first to say... YOUR AN IDIOT!!!

 

[Autox MSP]

let me be the first to say... YOUR AN IDIOT!!!

I'm probably not the first to say this but your an asshole.

 

[azian6er]

you would lose power unless you turbo it. i have an mx-6 LS with the v6 and it does sound mean as hell with the borla exhaust and staight pipe but it isnt as powerful as my speed.

-B

 

[jersey_emt]

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Come on guys.....end it now.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

how is a 170hp MX6 more powerful than a 170hp MSP?? Can someone explain this logic to me?

 

[azian6er]

how is a 170hp MX6 more powerful than a 170hp MSP?? Can someone explain this logic to me?

what?

 

[Stormtrooper77]

Weren't they more like 164?

 

[jersey_emt]

how is a 170hp MX6 more powerful than a 170hp MSP?? Can someone explain this logic to me?

Most likely - Weight.

 

[Autox MSP]

how is a 170hp MX6 more powerful than a 170hp MSP?? Can someone explain this logic to me?

It has more power though out the rpms, instant response only a N/A motor can have, smooth power delievery with out hickups of the MSP FS, Lighter flywheel. Few other things.

 

[azian6er]

the mx6 feels stronger but is not as fast as the msp. it has to do with torque doen low on the mx6. also it revs to 7K so it has an extra 500 rpms over the msp.

I drive both on a daily basis and i like both a lot. Mx6 feels strong and torquey but not as fast as the msp. Handling is no comparison. msp hands down.

i have hotshot headers, fidanza flywheel straight through cat and borla exhaust on my mx6 and it still feels slower then my msp but feels stronger down low.

no way any non blown mx6 is faster than an msp at 10 psi. There was one all motor mx6 who was running 13.5 in the 1/4 but it had tons of mods and weighed nothing.

-B

 

[Autox MSP]

Try running the stock FS motor at 10psi for long, You'll blow your piston seals in about 10 to 20k miles. Mazda did nothing to the motor to turbocharge it.

 

[DSMConvert]

not sure on the compatability...but if you're going to swap a probe v6(kl03) you might as well just get teh japanese version(klze) which makes 200hp...these engines are direct swaps for 2g GTs....a klze in a stock probe with just exhaust and intake will run around a 14.7ish...and I believe the msp is a little lighter...i would say its not worth the trouble though...the klze is gonna run around 1100 and more than likely isnt a direct swap...but the ze is def a good engine...I've seen/run numerous n/a and a few turbos that were exceptionally fast...for more information on the swap Id suggest going to probetalk.com or mx6.com...both cars had the same v6 engine and its a fairly common swap among v6 owners...infact our buddies at corksport can get the engines..though they are a little pricey...now that I think about it you could probably directly swap a fsze(Japanese version of our engines utilizes VRIS) 4cyl engine into our cars which puts out 170hp n/a and can handle up to 9psi on the stock internals...if you're serious let me know im a walking encyclopedia when it comes to mx6 4cyls whether its the fsze or the fs03 with a custom turbo setup...

 

[azian6er]

yeah i have to aggree. i have beat the living piss out of my mx6 and there have been no serious engine problems, only regular maintenace stuff. and i drive to redline very often when i drive the mx6.

motor is very strong.

-B

 

[jersey_emt]

Try running the stock FS motor at 10psi for long, You'll blow your piston seals in about 10 to 20k miles. Mazda did nothing to the motor to turbocharge it.

Dozens of people are running 10+ psi on the stock internals for longer than that with no problems whatsoever.

 

[Autox MSP]

You might think theres no problems, but get a oil catch can and start seeing how fast it fills up from all the blowby.

 

[Titanium]

Yes the V6 engine would fit. The mounting locations are the same. It would not be a job for the weak though. Alot of stuff would have to be swapped. I wouldnt do it. I do love the silky smooth Mazda KL series engines though! I had a 93 Probe but it wasnt a GT. Good old FS 2.0L, you would have thought I would learned but all in all the 2.0L was good to me. Now its sitting waiting for me to pull the jspec cam and flywheel out and then it can be picked up to the grave yard. Those parts will make there way into the MSP someday. I will always love the MX-6 and Probe and one day I will get another but this time it will be a V6 model. The guy with the all motor MX-6 that was in the 13 secs wrecked it and now it's gone. One car that I would mine get instead would be the MX-3 and either do a KL03 or even a KLZE swap on it. I those are stick when you do a 2.5L swap on them! Damn it I need a project car!!!!