fmic vs. upgraded tmic vs. stock tmic
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improved throttle response with longer intake piping?(hand)
there isnt an increase, but there isnt a decrease either, from a highway roll at least,
me vr my buddy with a 3.25 ets and we did 5 runs and i spooled up and took off same, if not faster. we switched cars for the 5th run too and he jumpd (in my car)..
i saw NO increase of turbo lag from a roll.
obviously from a dig there will be slight lag cause of the tubing, but i dont like to race from a dig in my car
me vr my buddy with a 3.25 ets and we did 5 runs and i spooled up and took off same, if not faster. we switched cars for the 5th run too and he jumpd (in my car)..
i saw NO increase of turbo lag from a roll.
obviously from a dig there will be slight lag cause of the tubing, but i dont like to race from a dig in my car
axisboldaslove
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i own tru-boost's car i bought it from him two weeks ago....yeah it's the only trz tmic with cooling coils to run nitrous, meth, water, or co2....and it has a huge ass 3" cold pipe
axisboldaslove
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what u want to buy the trz tmic with cooling coils?...i am looking to get a fmic! i am very interested if u want to buy it
no, i was saying. just buy ED's FMIC Piping kit for 300. and buy a CXracing or Godspeed core from ebay.
going that route will keep you unfer 450 for a FMIC with proper piping
mr_mazda329
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Damn good idea man. Exhaust Depot says their piping is really efficient, which is one thing I want. Are CXracing and Godspeed good cores? Never heard anything about those two products. Are you going to go with their recommended size front mount (31x8x3)?
Upgraded TMIC
Quick Spool
Lower BAT's
Lower pressure drop (more efficient turbo)
Simple to Install/Replace (in less then 15 minutes)
Only 4 clamps and 2 hoses.
Still heatsoaks
Larger unit can actually hold more heat then stock, so it can take longer to shed said heat (depending on conditions).
FMIC
Much lower BAT's
Lower pressure drop (more efficient turbo)
Cool factor (plus/minus depending on owner)
Rapid and massive drop in BAT's once car is moving.
Slight Lag (depends on kit)
Will still have some heatsoak in traffic (from asphalt heat).
Raises Coolant Temps (Depends on kit)
Complex to Install or Remove
Complexity increases chance of a boost leak from multiple clamps/piping.
Lots of kit's, only a couple well engineered ones.
Quick Spool
Lower BAT's
Lower pressure drop (more efficient turbo)
Simple to Install/Replace (in less then 15 minutes)
Only 4 clamps and 2 hoses.
Still heatsoaks
Larger unit can actually hold more heat then stock, so it can take longer to shed said heat (depending on conditions).
FMIC
Much lower BAT's
Lower pressure drop (more efficient turbo)
Cool factor (plus/minus depending on owner)
Rapid and massive drop in BAT's once car is moving.
Slight Lag (depends on kit)
Will still have some heatsoak in traffic (from asphalt heat).
Raises Coolant Temps (Depends on kit)
Complex to Install or Remove
Complexity increases chance of a boost leak from multiple clamps/piping.
Lots of kit's, only a couple well engineered ones.
axisboldaslove
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- 07 MS3 GT Heavily Modified
in your opinion what is a well engineered fmic kit for the MS3 then?
axisboldaslove
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- 07 MS3 GT Heavily Modified
are u using the corksport along with the ram air intake that came with it?
do u have any underhood pics?
Right now? The CP-E or Cobb kits. I haven't actually seen someone with the F2 kit, just people "talking" about it..and some guy test fitting it who doesn't know anything about intercoolers or the questions to ask. DCR is probably working on a kit too, it'll probably be top notch, but you can be guarenteed it ain't gonna cost no 750...it'll probably be 1-1.2k like all the other decent kits.
I never liked the corksport location of the intake on top of the engine...the whole point of the FMIC was getting stuff OFF the engine. Heat rises people!
But the corksport is the best overall bang for the buck, so everyone will keep buying it
. Just like everyone buys the fuel pump internals, then watches them fail, then buys them again, then watches another set fail...eventually everyone will just end up buying the full replacement pumps, but it'll take another year of failures before everyone finally realizes you can't calculate those types of tolerances with a caliper...
That's the budget way...it always ends up costing more in the end, but you can't ever explain that to someone, you just have to watch a few hundred people do it repeatedly on the forums.
Here's a tip...if you are buying a product with a notation such as "Version 2, or V2, or V3 etc" maybe you should look for a different product...lol.
I never liked the corksport location of the intake on top of the engine...the whole point of the FMIC was getting stuff OFF the engine. Heat rises people!
But the corksport is the best overall bang for the buck, so everyone will keep buying it
. Just like everyone buys the fuel pump internals, then watches them fail, then buys them again, then watches another set fail...eventually everyone will just end up buying the full replacement pumps, but it'll take another year of failures before everyone finally realizes you can't calculate those types of tolerances with a caliper...That's the budget way...it always ends up costing more in the end, but you can't ever explain that to someone, you just have to watch a few hundred people do it repeatedly on the forums.
Here's a tip...if you are buying a product with a notation such as "Version 2, or V2, or V3 etc" maybe you should look for a different product...lol.
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uhh, youll probly get just as much, if not barely any less heat soak from a SRI than the corksport intake on top? and all the heat shields? no matter what intake u have, air will always be heated by the time it gets to the inlet, its the intercoolers job to cool it off. besides i gaurantee the corksport kit gets the most free flowing air to the intake than any other kit considering its using the stock ducting.
iv felt the intake box and pipe up to the inlet after a hard days driving, and it doesnt get NEARLY as hot as the TMIC used to. maybe u should experience it first hand before saying how the intake heatsoaks.
and also, i have about 25,000 miles on my kit.. and it hasnt "failed" or showed any signs of failing. at all.
and the only reason corksport ahs 2 versions, is because the first version's inlet didnt come with a recirc option,a dn the second one does. i dont see how thats a reason to look for a different product?
heres a dirty dirty picture
and without the stock intercooler cover on
iv felt the intake box and pipe up to the inlet after a hard days driving, and it doesnt get NEARLY as hot as the TMIC used to. maybe u should experience it first hand before saying how the intake heatsoaks.
and also, i have about 25,000 miles on my kit.. and it hasnt "failed" or showed any signs of failing. at all.
and the only reason corksport ahs 2 versions, is because the first version's inlet didnt come with a recirc option,a dn the second one does. i dont see how thats a reason to look for a different product?
heres a dirty dirty picture
and without the stock intercooler cover on
because it is in the same price range as the others and i have also heard good things about it. i dont know how soon ill be getting a fmic but with cobb ditching theirs im open to something different
mr_mazda329
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They do heatsoak, but the newer ones actually shed heat quicker than the stock ones despite their larger size.
fastdreams
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- 2008 MS3
What is so "well engineered" about the available FMICs? You realize they are buying a core from a known core mfg and then "engineering" pipes and brackets? Sure it takes some thought to get it right but it's not rocket science.
caddistang
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With that corksport top mount intake does it seem to take in alot of water when it rains or anything? Or i should ask how does defend against hydro lock?
