FMIC and airbox installed at BEGi

[ALIEN3T]

(drinks) i think fmic is stupid on a car tuned for tmic.....a hood scoop would be a better investment than a fmic in my opinion...plus i heard that fmic is best if ur getting serious numbers... like 350+ to the wheel

well even mazda engineers say the tmic is causing the car to loose like 3 lbs of boost. and is not as efficient as it should be. thats why the aftermarket ones give you like 20 hp more!
as for the front mount, even corksport is seeing like 40 ponnies, and 70 ft/lbs of tourqe at the wheels with a front mount kit. Then you can remove the ducting and make the hood a little light to open. but a front mount you start to loose like 1 lb or so og boost with the travel.

 

[msp35]

well even mazda engineers say the tmic is causing the car to loose like 3 lbs of boost. and is not as efficient as it should be. thats why the aftermarket ones give you like 20 hp more!
as for the front mount, even corksport is seeing like 40 ponnies, and 70 ft/lbs of tourqe at the wheels with a front mount kit. Then you can remove the ducting and make the hood a little light to open. but a front mount you start to loose like 1 lb or so og boost with the travel.

Where did you come across this info?

 

[ALIEN3T]

from corksport themselves, thats what they are claiming

http://corksport.com/page/17zl5/Home.html

look under news and anouncments for 1/18/07
i also called them and thats the answer they gave me, but someone else was told with exaust, downpipe, intake and intercooler they saw that. i just read. But thats what they said to me. I was like it sounded high when i talked to them. BUt the kit is to be around 1100 bucks. and it being finished!

 

[redms3gt]

Isnt the high pressure zone at the front nose of the car right where the factory pulls air from? I would think where a hood scoop would be placed on the hood it would not be in this high pressure zone. I sure it will get air but likely not as much as its already getting.

 

[blkMS3]

i'd rather go w/ a front mount just because having cool air slamming against the front of the intercooler just seems like a better way of cooling than a scoop pulling in what little air it can into an already hot engine bay......the boost loss through the piping i dont really worry about because it will be made up by cooler intake temps neway.....thats why i think the subie guys go w/ a front mount too and they have had a lot of time to do some real r&d......just my opinion tho....

 

[justa4banger]

None of you must pop the hood and feel the IC after a hard run......
the IC is Cool. the air ducting works Just fine. Infact the only bad thing about a TMIC is when you are sitting at redlights. Then again if you sit long enough poorly designed FMIC will heat soak also. In any case who cares about heat soak at a stop, these cars can't launch for crap anyways, their better on the highway. Stop trying to run from a DIG in a FWD car, its pointless check my SIG........

A scoop on the hood IS GAY IMO (only appropreiate on the suby's), but more importantly after a certain speed if the scoop isn't designed correctly it will draw air from the engine bay and suck it out the scoop with a vacume effect.
My stang (SVO) has a hood scoop and its effective till 50mph or so then hot air rises from under the hood and is Sucked out the scoop. (I didn't conduct the test but if you would like to see the info it let me know).

A better flowing IC (less pressure drop) in the stock location would be my route IF i was to upgrade the IC.
Too many ricers wanting to show off the goods. If thats what you like by all means go for it, but until i see dyno numbers from before and after WITH no other mods i won't be investing in a FMIC. TMIC works just fine and keeps the car low on the radar.

Also i want to know the dimensions of the new IC compared to the stock IC. theres such a thing called frontal area that great affects pressure drop. If the frontal are is not improved any, then the FMIC will not mak much/or any difference in power. If anything it will make the power come in later due to lag.

 

[Kansei]

A FMIC doesn't have to be about "showing off the goods" Check my SIG, there's a big ol FMIC sitting right in that lower grille

 

[clos561]

doesnt a tmic have shorter pipes to the turbo?, so i wouldnt jsut a nice cf hod or anyhood with a decent scoop be better than tmic?

 

[Kosh]

doesnt a tmic have shorter pipes to the turbo?, so i wouldnt jsut a nice cf hod or anyhood with a decent scoop be better than tmic?

Look under your hood and you will see ducts leading from the bottom of the lip to the battery and TMIC. That is how mazda got around hood scoops. Probably to allow them to use the same hood on NA mazda 3 and just add some plastic tubing to cool the TMIC. A CF hood would be nice to loose some high up weight but don't think there are any on market over here.

 

[Kansei]

Actually it isn't the same hood at all. Mazda added a big bulge in the hood to accept the TMIC, with the normal Mazda3 hood I doubt you could fit a TMIC, scoop or no scoop.

 

[redheaddstpch1d]

I see there is still no word from the mystery person "1967abarth". We all wanna know details about this FMIC!!

 

[1967abarth]

Some of the members on this forum drove my car a week ago. You may want to search for their comments, but I believe they were all satisfied with the modification up to this time. Powdercoating still needs to be done and additional testing accomplished.

 

[$inCitySpeed3]

Look under your hood and you will see ducts leading from the bottom of the lip to the battery and TMIC. That is how mazda got around hood scoops. Probably to allow them to use the same hood on NA mazda 3 and just add some plastic tubing to cool the TMIC. A CF hood would be nice to loose some high up weight but don't think there are any on market over here.

not the same hood or fenders

 

[redheaddstpch1d]

Some of the members on this forum drove my car a week ago. You may want to search for their comments, but I believe they were all satisfied with the modification up to this time. Powdercoating still needs to be done and additional testing accomplished.

Thats cool and all except i cant find these comments you refer to. Anyway, we wanna see some pics of your piping to the FMIC Hook us up pretty plz.

 

[clos561]

Look under your hood and you will see ducts leading from the bottom of the lip to the battery and TMIC. That is how mazda got around hood scoops. Probably to allow them to use the same hood on NA mazda 3 and just add some plastic tubing to cool the TMIC. A CF hood would be nice to loose some high up weight but don't think there are any on market over here.

http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/new_part...rbo_f_lip.html

this is from a diff thread....first hood ive seen so far....this is so nice

 

[clos561]

Some of the members on this forum drove my car a week ago. You may want to search for their comments, but I believe they were all satisfied with the modification up to this time. Powdercoating still needs to be done and additional testing accomplished.

post some pics u shmuck

 

[clos561]

Air still gets to the radiator after it passes through the intercooler. Ususally cooling efficiency of the radiator is not greatly reduced because of the FMIC.

The TMIC is gone, and the piping is rerouted to the FMIC.
This is pretty beneficial because you could get a CF hood to reduce all the weight the stock hood is adding because of all the ducting to the TMIC

lol ducting ? ull lose like 1/2 pound on plastic pieces.....best thing is to wait for a cf hood with a scoop...check ou the link i posted..i copy n paste from diff thread, looks good

 

[Jeph]

lol ducting ? ull lose like 1/2 pound on plastic pieces.....best thing is to wait for a cf hood with a scoop...check ou the link i posted..i copy n paste from diff thread, looks good

LOL what the **** are you talking about, didn't i say get a CF hood. Read, then post

 

[redheaddstpch1d]

Link didnt work clos...got another one?

 

[$inCitySpeed3]

i dont think a scoop would be as good, there is a rubber boot to make sure the air goes to just teh intercooler, the scoop will provide air but not directly to it