Fast E/T's

[laloosh]

Ure questioning my ability to shift? I will outdrive you in anything you own. Shifting doesnt take skill, launching takes skill. The car is limited in 1st and 2nd gear and requires a 4-5 shift. Yes the car makes 250whp but its powerband flat out sucks. If we could actaully leave it in 4th and make power all the way to 6700 rpm then yes the car would be alot faster than it is. Untill than we are stuck in high 13 second land. If i add a full turboback exhaust, guess what this thing will got 13.5-13.6 at 103-104 at best.

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS3t8D32PPg

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

heres a start to make you believe the lude doesnt only redline at 7400, but puts out power past with a few mods. now i may have said 9000 but it may have been something like 8800...but s***...

im not sitting here raving about the lude but im trying to prove im no lier. thats sitting at about 8300 rpms and even though theres a power drop off i know he can still go higher. like our power drop off is at 55-5800...you can still go past.

 

[laloosh]

You know NOTHING about how engines work. Do you actaully realize you posted a modified dyno consisting of a an engine that was totally ripped apart with changed compression and rods/headgasket. And that pos still only made 189whp, so your all mighty 94 mad tyte 3rd gear vtech with an intake made a whopping 150-160whp IF that. There is no way you ran that time with only and intake a chip that removes the rev limiter, cause liek i said it makes no power.

Heres a stock dyno, notice where the power drops off, now quit lying and actually go to a track so you can run a 14.5 @ 99, then come back here and say sorry(gtfo)

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

If i add a full turboback exhaust, guess what this thing will got 13.5-13.6 at 103-104 at best.

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS3t8D32PPg

first off, sorry on the dis about your driving, im just jacked you dont believe me about my lude. i actually saw your numbers and was quite impressed. esp with the 0-60ft time. i agree on your 13.5 and 13.6 thats what ive been saying from the start. but why would you think that a 13.9 is only capable with a CAI if its possible to run a 13.5 with a turbo back and a CAI, the difference would be that substantial between just the CAI? I just think thats way to large of a gap. but like the kid above said. seeing is believing. so i dont doubt you.

(stopwar) i believe you and agree with you on about 80% of the s*** youve said.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

You know NOTHING about how engines work. Do you actaully realize you posted a modified dyno consisting of a an engine that was totally ripped apart with changed compression and rods/headgasket. And that pos still only made 189whp, so your all mighty 94 mad tyte 3rd gear vtech with an intake made a whopping 150-160whp IF that. There is no way you ran that time with only and intake a chip that removes the rev limiter, cause liek i said it makes no power.

Heres a stock dyno, notice where the power drops off, now quit lying and actually go to a track so you can run a 14.5 @ 99, then come back here and say sorry(gtfo)

as i said in the post, that was to prove the redline only.

 

[laloosh]

the turboback makes 30-35 PEAK horesepower. But through the powerband its makes greater gain. The turbo spools quicker and we get a s*** load of more torque. I have never driven in a tbe ms3 but my guesses tell me that it really wakes the car up, so with the added torque and boost running a 2.1 60 my car essentially should be good for a 13.5-13.6. Like i said this is all speculation, but a turboback exhaust does ALOT more than an intake.

 

[laloosh]

as i said in the post, that was to prove the redline only.

that car was modified, im sure it had the supporting mods to be able to rev that high. You simplly cant take a stock prelude and rev it that high with no supporting mods. Did you buy the car used?

 

[civic si hb]

the turboback makes 30-35 PEAK horesepower. But through the powerband its makes greater gain. The turbo spools quicker and we get a s*** load of more torque. I have never driven in a tbe ms3 but my guesses tell me that it really wakes the car up, so with the added torque and boost running a 2.1 60 my car essentially should be good for a 13.5-13.6. Like i said this is all speculation, but a turboback exhaust does ALOT more than an intake.

My buddy has a CAI and the corksport down pipe with PG testpipe and (stock catback) and it's a entire new car. Second gear at full throttle is just about useless cause of the spinning.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

the turboback makes 30-35 PEAK horesepower. But through the powerband its makes greater gain. The turbo spools quicker and we get a s*** load of more torque. I have never driven in a tbe ms3 but my guesses tell me that it really wakes the car up, so with the added torque and boost running a 2.1 60 my car essentially should be good for a 13.5-13.6. Like i said this is all speculation, but a turboback exhaust does ALOT more than an intake.

right on. ill run my car once i get my turbo back and let you know how everything runs. i cant say im going to hit that 2.17 0-60 ft because as i said earlier, i was impressed by it. but i do believe that i could hit a 13.6 in the end of the 1/4. i also think if you were to drive it with the same you could hit better esp according to your previous runs. the earlier discretion i had though was people hitting a 14.2 with a CAI. not you hitting a 13.9 with a CAI. (damn this s*** got all warped out of shape a page later)

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

alright im gunna man up and own this...i called my boy who i raced with that day at the track with my lude and with the CAI, and a 4-1 header. i ran a 14.4. my bad. his 300zx was the one that ran the 14.1. sorry for the problem, the stress, and the senile brain.

but he agreed on the 8500-9000 shift. theres no way for me to prove it as true but hey...its all good.

 

[fourthmeal]

Laloosh there is no doubt you can drive the car (I watched your vid with a major nod of appreciation to your skill), but the best driver in the world is still not as cocky as you.

I'm not quite sure of your intention to be bold and outlandish here, but it does get old quick.

I'm not trying to start something with you regarding who can drive better and whatnot. But seriously, if you took a look back at yourself and really thought about what you've written on this board so far, I think you'd b**** slap yourself for being such an ass.

There is always a bigger fish then you...remember that. Sometimes it is smart to just be confident in your abilties, instead of cocky.

/end remark.

Now for me personally, I'm pretty excited as to what this car can do on methanol/water injection. That will be the route I take. I'm leaving just about everything stock, except the intake, some sort of processor to remove the torque limiting and throttle plate anomalies, a smooth-flowing downpipe, engine mount, short shifter, and some nice new 18x8.5 wheels and tires for more traction. I think those mods alone will yield a pretty mighty car, IMO.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

that car was modified, im sure it had the supporting mods to be able to rev that high. You simplly cant take a stock prelude and rev it that high with no supporting mods. Did you buy the car used?

i bought the car used but there was no work to it. not that im aware of anyway. when i pulled it al apart after i blew holes in my block from over heating it to many time in the course of a year or so, all the parts in the internals were original. i dont know what to tell you. i think you grossly underestimate the durability and mechanics of the h22a.

EDIT: actually i read in a mag a few years back a guy who had an h22a ran a 50 shot of nos and .....ummm.....it was turbo charged but i can recall the boost he had going through it. but in any case it was his everyday driver. he ran it at the track every weekend until he blew a rod but that wasnt unitl over 60,000 miles!!! he replaced the rod and so on and it ran fine afterwards. but just another campfire story without proof. sorry.

 

[LENNY127]

peace in the middle east, I gave up on my 60 ft times laloosh I cant take my car to the drags because they dont happen often enough down here in southern cal so after baselining my g tech off of a couple of actual drags I just use it now when I want to compare mods vs times, I wonder what a difference the asphalt at the track makes compared to concrete on the street but for the life of me I cant get this car below 2.35 60', (I still havent tried to lower the psi to 25 so who knows) but for me personally I doubt any ms3 thats stock or has just a cai that runs low to mid 13's and specially at 105mph + , the ET's can go up and down all day but the mph .......105mph would be indicative of a car making at least 320 to 330 bhp there is no way around that fact, unless of course your ms3 weighs now 2700lbs or some s*** like that

 

[laloosh]

Laloosh there is no doubt you can drive the car (I watched your vid with a major nod of appreciation to your skill), but the best driver in the world is still not as cocky as you.

I'm not quite sure of your intention to be bold and outlandish here, but it does get old quick.

I'm not trying to start something with you regarding who can drive better and whatnot. But seriously, if you took a look back at yourself and really thought about what you've written on this board so far, I think you'd b**** slap yourself for being such an ass.

There is always a bigger fish then you...remember that. Sometimes it is smart to just be confident in your abilties, instead of cocky.

/end remark.

Now for me personally, I'm pretty excited as to what this car can do on methanol/water injection. That will be the route I take. I'm leaving just about everything stock, except the intake, some sort of processor to remove the torque limiting and throttle plate anomalies, a smooth-flowing downpipe, engine mount, short shifter, and some nice new 18x8.5 wheels and tires for more traction. I think those mods alone will yield a pretty mighty car, IMO.

ok im done here, i only get "cocky" once my experience and driving get tested. Than i can post experience and actual proof of who am i and what i do. I've been doing this 6 years now with different cars/bikes. Anything from autox to tracks to 1/4 miles. I have a s*** load of time experience with alot of cars and alot of friends with different cars so my knowlege is not the greatest in any particular topic but i pretty much know what you have about most cars.
but thats fine, you guys go an believe everything that is written here. 101 trap speeds missing 2 of 4 shifts and bogging of the line turn into 96mph trap speeds once i argue it. 14.1 intake only preludes turn into 14.4 intake, race header prelude (btw still dont believe that one)
13.2 @ 109 with an intake boy will eventually chim in here.
trap speed that go form 100 to 105 with only an intake, when i simply question these things, proof is nowhere to be found.

Maybe im just use to boards where people actaully go to the track and not post bulls*** 90% of the time. People here seem to be more intrested in wheels and carbon fiber hoods, and thats fine. Personally i dont understand why even buy mods if your not going to race your car, and no dont tell me you feel an ext .1-.2 in a 1/4 mile on the street, cause you can't not with a 13-14 second car.


How bout we create a ms3 timeslip thread. No bulls*** talking, just post your mods, and a timeslip. We can have two sections, Fast ets and fast trap speeds. I wouldnt mind running it and updating for whoever wants to take part in it. And leave threads liek this for discussion as to how to launch the car, where to shift with what mods ect ect.

 

[laloosh]

peace in the middle east, I gave up on my 60 ft times laloosh I cant take my car to the drags because they dont happen often enough down here in southern cal so after baselining my g tech off of a couple of actual drags I just use it now when I want to compare mods vs times, I wonder what a difference the asphalt at the track makes compared to concrete on the street but for the life of me I cant get this car below 2.35 60', (I still havent tried to lower the psi to 25 so who knows) but for me personally I doubt any ms3 thats stock or has just a cai that runs low to mid 13's and specially at 105mph + , the ET's can go up and down all day but the mph .......105mph would be indicative of a car making at least 320 to 330 bhp there is no way around that fact, unless of course your ms3 weighs now 2700lbs or some s*** like that

i've had nights where i hooked up better on the street than at the track, its all about the track prep work. I've never used gtech but ive hear the ets are very close to actualy ets but the mph is always too high.

 

[fourthmeal]

Son, trying to catch me in a lie will get you nowhere fast.

I ran what I ran...then my engine fell out. HA!

Anyway, I'm an expert car audio and home theater guy, but I don't run around saying I'm the best there is.

We all have our passions. I do agree, a timeslip sticky thread is a good idea. A Dyno sticky would also be a great idea. These cars are certainly fast enough to warrant the addition of these two threads.

 

[laloosh]

Son, trying to catch me in a lie will get you nowhere fast.

I ran what I ran...then my engine fell out. HA!

Anyway, I'm an expert car audio and home theater guy, but I don't run around saying I'm the best there is.

We all have our passions. I do agree, a timeslip sticky thread is a good idea. A Dyno sticky would also be a great idea. These cars are certainly fast enough to warrant the addition of these two threads.

Ok my car audio skills are basic, i have no doubt you know more than me, but if you flat out caught some lying about car audio saying somethin like "i hooked up 4 800watt jbls to the stock radio running no amp" you wouldnt feel tempted to flat out call him a liar and make sure no1 believes him. People learn alot fromt hese forums. The more bulls*** thats posted, the more idiots we make. We all start somehwere, why not start somewhere that provides proof and reasoning.

 

[fourthmeal]

Agreed on the b.s. information on threads. One important thing to remember is that most of us are here to learn and improve our understanding of this car, and make it better.

I just think your method of correction might be a bit rash, to put it politely. Why not just make the corrections, provide the proof, and let the rest hash itself out?

I try to do the same on the audio forums. I'm certainly not perfect at it, but it seems to go over better, and gets more information across.

A lot of forum members will jump out of a thread when they start seeing attacks left and right, because the useful exchange of information just ceases to exist.

Shake hands, move on? (dunno)

 

[tru-boost]

ive done a best of 14.1 @101 yesterday at route66 drag strip i could not break 14.4 @ 97. the heat/humidity killed me ! i did pull a 21. 60ft. time which was my best launch yet ! i was powershifting perfectly, it just would not go any faster for me. my boost was lower than normal in the heat i noticed too. i was only holding about 14 psi in the high gears.

 

[LENNY127]

heres the end of this thread, this morning at around 3am I finally got everything working in sync. I installed a flux capacitor in line with the turbo and IC (dont ask it's a bit complicated) but that in combination with my freshly pedicured left foot was able to get me 1.62 60ft time and 10.76 @ 131.29 mph , not bad for a first time but with a little more tunning mach 1 should be achieved.