Fast E/T's

that is only a sugestion it is not madatory even thoe i do run 93 in it most of the time but i have found that 87 gets better gas milage and runs alil quicker at the track. I tried it on the car cuz it work that way for my motocross bike 87 burns faster so it made the bike faster.
 
Infantrylowlife said:
that is only a sugestion it is not madatory even thoe i do run 93 in it most of the time but i have found that 87 gets better gas milage and runs alil quicker at the track. I tried it on the car cuz it work that way for my motocross bike 87 burns faster so it made the bike faster.


Ok i'm calling some bulls*** on some people here.
First off, when a car is designed for a certain fuel spec, your right its not required, but it is recommended for BEST performance, Do you even know whats going on with the enigne when you run lower grade fuel, it pulls timing. When timing is pulled, there is no way you are going to make maximum power, thus times and trap speeds DECREASE, SO HOW IN THE **** CAN YOU RUN FASTER ON bad FUEL?????????????(argh)

Faster burning fuel in the wrong engine setup causes DETONATION , thats knock , thus the computer pulls timing and the car goes slower. your last statement about your bike shows you don't what the **** your talking about. If a engine is designed for 87, then YES running 93 octane won't make it any better, Because the fuel Does burn slower, the fuel is more controlled. Thus not much of a gain if any at all.

For the record YES i am being an ass cause of all the forums i frequent, theres is more bulls*** on this board than any other board i cruise through.

Next time you go to thwe track pay attention to the MPH VS TIME. TIME is about about driver, car setup and traction. MPH is a showing of HP. its pretty damn consitant. i have 9 slips at my house of various runs on my SVO in the 1/8th. The times go from 8.30's to 7.88. Mph only changed once i upped the boost. At 25 psi i was trapping around 85mph at 26 psi i was at 87 mph CONSISTANTLY

As for SENIOR haltech and his bulls*** statement, Show me the timeslip hero, until then do ALL of us a favor and keep your wishfull dreaming to yourself. Oh and if you do have a timeslip, you do know how to read it right? its not the best time and mph for both lanes added together and then averaged......... :rolleyes:
 
He must have had a running start doin 100 then slowing to 89... that might not even do the job. lets see a time slip
 
justa4banger said:
Ok i'm calling some bulls*** on some people here.
First off, when a car is designed for a certain fuel spec, your right its not required, but it is recommended for BEST performance, Do you even know whats going on with the enigne when you run lower grade fuel, it pulls timing. When timing is pulled, there is no way you are going to make maximum power, thus times and trap speeds DECREASE, SO HOW IN THE **** CAN YOU RUN FASTER ON bad FUEL?????????????(argh)

Faster burning fuel in the wrong engine setup causes DETONATION , thats knock , thus the computer pulls timing and the car goes slower. your last statement about your bike shows you don't what the **** your talking about. If a engine is designed for 87, then YES running 93 octane won't make it any better, Because the fuel Does burn slower, the fuel is more controlled. Thus not much of a gain if any at all.

For the record YES i am being an ass cause of all the forums i frequent, theres is more bulls*** on this board than any other board i cruise through.

Next time you go to thwe track pay attention to the MPH VS TIME. TIME is about about driver, car setup and traction. MPH is a showing of HP. its pretty damn consitant. i have 9 slips at my house of various runs on my SVO in the 1/8th. The times go from 8.30's to 7.88. Mph only changed once i upped the boost. At 25 psi i was trapping around 85mph at 26 psi i was at 87 mph CONSISTANTLY

As for SENIOR haltech and his bulls*** statement, Show me the timeslip hero, until then do ALL of us a favor and keep your wishfull dreaming to yourself. Oh and if you do have a timeslip, you do know how to read it right? its not the best time and mph for both lanes added together and then averaged......... :rolleyes:

(yippy) Glad someone got up and called bulls***. I notice it a lot on this forum people just talking out their asses. These cars should be hitting over 100 in a quarter mile...hitting 89 in 13.8 is ridiculous.
 
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Kosh said:
(yippy) Glad someone got up and called bulls***. I notice it a lot on this forum people just talking out their asses. These cars should be hitting over 100 in a quarter mile...hitting 89 in 13.8 is ridiculous.


Hey i've seen cars that run a 9 sec pass in the 1/4 @ only 90 mph..............there called dragsters that loose it in the middle of the track and have to shut it down to keep from ******* up the car. (cabpatch)
 
Haltech said:
I got a 13.6 of it her @89 with a 1.92 60 FT time.. I think i 13.3 is possible with some drag radials... Possibly, a 13.10 with cold air.

lol.
you can't be serious.
 
justa4banger said:
Ok i'm calling some bulls*** on some people here.
First off, when a car is designed for a certain fuel spec, your right its not required, but it is recommended for BEST performance, Do you even know whats going on with the enigne when you run lower grade fuel, it pulls timing. When timing is pulled, there is no way you are going to make maximum power, thus times and trap speeds DECREASE, SO HOW IN THE **** CAN YOU RUN FASTER ON bad FUEL?????????????(argh)

Faster burning fuel in the wrong engine setup causes DETONATION , thats knock , thus the computer pulls timing and the car goes slower. your last statement about your bike shows you don't what the **** your talking about. If a engine is designed for 87, then YES running 93 octane won't make it any better, Because the fuel Does burn slower, the fuel is more controlled. Thus not much of a gain if any at all.

For the record YES i am being an ass cause of all the forums i frequent, theres is more bulls*** on this board than any other board i cruise through.

Next time you go to thwe track pay attention to the MPH VS TIME. TIME is about about driver, car setup and traction. MPH is a showing of HP. its pretty damn consitant. i have 9 slips at my house of various runs on my SVO in the 1/8th. The times go from 8.30's to 7.88. Mph only changed once i upped the boost. At 25 psi i was trapping around 85mph at 26 psi i was at 87 mph CONSISTANTLY

As for SENIOR haltech and his bulls*** statement, Show me the timeslip hero, until then do ALL of us a favor and keep your wishfull dreaming to yourself. Oh and if you do have a timeslip, you do know how to read it right? its not the best time and mph for both lanes added together and then averaged......... :rolleyes:


THANK YOU! you said what ive been thinkin the whole time ive been biting my tongue while reading this BS...Until there is a time slip this is :bs:
and i dont want to hear any "i lost the slip..." or " i threw it out" ....cause when you put up good numbers 1.) you'll want to remember the run and 2.) you know youre gonna have to prove it!
 
justa4banger said:
Ok i'm calling some bulls*** on some people here.
First off, when a car is designed for a certain fuel spec, your right its not required, but it is recommended for BEST performance, Do you even know whats going on with the enigne when you run lower grade fuel, it pulls timing. When timing is pulled, there is no way you are going to make maximum power, thus times and trap speeds DECREASE, SO HOW IN THE **** CAN YOU RUN FASTER ON bad FUEL?????????????(argh)

Faster burning fuel in the wrong engine setup causes DETONATION , thats knock , thus the computer pulls timing and the car goes slower. your last statement about your bike shows you don't what the **** your talking about. If a engine is designed for 87, then YES running 93 octane won't make it any better, Because the fuel Does burn slower, the fuel is more controlled. Thus not much of a gain if any at all.

For the record YES i am being an ass cause of all the forums i frequent, theres is more bulls*** on this board than any other board i cruise through.

Next time you go to thwe track pay attention to the MPH VS TIME. TIME is about about driver, car setup and traction. MPH is a showing of HP. its pretty damn consitant. i have 9 slips at my house of various runs on my SVO in the 1/8th. The times go from 8.30's to 7.88. Mph only changed once i upped the boost. At 25 psi i was trapping around 85mph at 26 psi i was at 87 mph CONSISTANTLY

As for SENIOR haltech and his bulls*** statement, Show me the timeslip hero, until then do ALL of us a favor and keep your wishfull dreaming to yourself. Oh and if you do have a timeslip, you do know how to read it right? its not the best time and mph for both lanes added together and then averaged......... :rolleyes:


Your right about all you said and the fast time on 87 may have been cuz of my driving but if your fuel is controled all i can say if for ppl to try running the ms3 on 87 for a pass or two ppl may see what im talking about and if its controled anyway it wont matter if you run it all the time. And i would say I do know alil bit about fuel/air cuz I did a few port jobs for DEI & 1 for Gibbs
 
Did you empty your tank completely before putting in 87? If you were running a half tank of 93 and put in half a tank of 87 you would in effect be running 90 octane.

And don't think you aren't doing harm running 87 octane. Every time you have pre-ignition you are damaging your combustion chamber walls.
 
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Infantrylowlife said:
Your right about all you said and the fast time on 87 may have been cuz of my driving but if your fuel is controled all i can say if for ppl to try running the ms3 on 87 for a pass or two ppl may see what im talking about and if its controled anyway it wont matter if you run it all the time. And i would say I do know alil bit about fuel/air cuz I did a few port jobs for DEI & 1 for Gibbs

that is one of the longests run-on sentences i've ever seen. sorry, i had to say it. (stash)
 
Haltech said:
I got a 13.6 of it her @89 with a 1.92 60 FT time.. I think i 13.3 is possible with some drag radials... Possibly, a 13.10 with cold air.

Now I don't know about a 13.1 or even a 13.3 with radials or anything like that, but if you to the math the couple of people hitting low 14's are hitting something like 2.3x 60fts. Better tires, suspension, or whatever you could do to get the 60ft at 1.9 you would run that time. What I want to know is how exactly you got a 1.9 60ft? What tires were you running?
 
nothing. you're not supposed to drive your car HARD on low gas or use anything other than 91 for an extended period of time though. not sure why, i'm not a mechanic.
 
controlo said:
nothing. you're not supposed to drive your car HARD on low gas or use anything other than 91 for an extended period of time though. not sure why, i'm not a mechanic.


this is for many reasons.
the first being that when you tank is low, your fuel pump has to work much
harder to maintain fuel pressure, which causes the pump to run hot, which
in turn significantly reduces it's lifespan.
as far as running on 87 crap gas, that's just stupid.(screwy)
as it's been said, lower octane will burn faster and much more inconsistently,
which will inevitably lead to pre-detonation(kaboom).
if I was to run anything lower than 91 in my ride, my ecu would pull timing,
and send the car into limp mode, which I am sure the ms3 does as well, but I
am not 100% sure as I don't have one.
 

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