ETS TMIC... talked with Michael

[Methodical4u]

Ok so I was curious and decided to send ETS a message and chatted with Michael for a few ... I asked him some questions that might help some people make a choice on what TMIC to get.

Also posted this on the "other" mazda site... mostly rude losers over there.


Evan: Hey Michael, you there?
ETS Michael: yes
Evan: awesome man... hey I just had a question on your MS3 TMIC
Evan: I've gotten some parts with you before through Jordan over at defined motorsports
Evan: Anyway, your HP numbers I was just wondering, was this IC heatsoaked with this power output?
ETS Michael: We haven't had the TMIC heat soak on the stock turbo
Evan: They make a Cp-e that is a few hundred cheaper, but i'm just wondering what you feel the differences are if you have looked at theirs at all?
Evan: So you haven't been able to heatsoak it, or you haven't tested it while heatsoaked?
ETS Michael: the difference is the core
ETS Michael: and the quality between the two products.
ETS Michael: They use a straight through internal fin pack
ETS Michael: so the air passes directly through the core
ETS Michael: we use an offset and staggered core
ETS Michael: so the air inside has to tumble and hit multiple fins for better heat transfer.
Evan: oh ok, do you mind if I post what you write on the MS3 forums?
Evan: or what you wrote rather
Evan: hey man, are you still there? I didn't want to put up the info you told me without your permission... sounds like a reasonable explanation to me... others might be interested, especially if you haven't experienced heat soak.
ETS Michael: ya you can post it up
ETS Michael: sorry
ETS Michael: i was on the phone.
Evan: no problem man... I just wanted to make sure, I know you're a busy guy... thanks for the info.
ETS Michael:
Evan: have a good day

So it looks like they have not had any heatsoaking issues with his TMIC... before anyone talks about track runs though keep in mind that their website does say that

"3.25" flows 1176 CFM (705hp based on flow, inlet/oulet restrict flow to ~600hp, surface area = 450hp at ~50mph, speed required for this power rating due to flow through the scoop)"

I have used ETS before and they make a quality product so I know from first hand knowledge that welds look good, everything looks good. I had a 4" IC from them for my Evo X which he told Jordan over at defined MS that he would hook me up, so I wound up with a polished IC for no extra cost. Anyway, anyone who is debating which TM to get I just thought i'd post this up for everyone to read.

I'm sure Cp-e makes a nice product as well, so i'm not trying to knock them at all... just the messanger here.

 

[ZPrice]

Read your same post on another forum, if you believe there will be no heat soak then I am sure I will see pigs flying soon. I will admit that when you are moving the GENPU scoop helps the cooling tremendously, but you still have the same old $H!t in stop and go traffic. I had the ETS and have gone to the FMIC, there is a difference, why would every other car manufacturer go with FM if TM was the better option, no brainer. Save your money a little longer and put the right option on your car now that there are several options/price ranges to choose from.

Z

 

[Methodical4u]

Read your same post on another forum, if you believe there will be no heat soak then I am sure I will see pigs flying soon. I will admit that when you are moving the GENPU scoop helps the cooling tremendously, but you still have the same old $H!t in stop and go traffic. I had the ETS and have gone to the FMIC, there is a difference, why would every other car manufacturer go with FM if TM was the better option, no brainer. Save your money a little longer and put the right option on your car now that there are several options/price ranges to choose from.

Z

I'll be honest... I just want to be able to drop in a TMIC so it's less work and less headaches .... a lot easier to switch back too it seems. I'm not a 1/4 mile kind of guy anyway and I don't live in the city where there's a lot of stop and go traffic... it just seems like it would suit me better.

 

[ZPrice]

I believe ETS is having a group buy, give him a call, you might need to sign up elsewhere. Give some thought to replacing the boost tubes to smooth things out.

Z