electric supercharger

[ducktape]

Hi, i really like the idea of an electric supercharger as a cheaper replacement for a real turbo.
i know you guys will tell me that this idea suck, i also know that most electric supercharger out there r made of non-quality product, but if an electric supercharger made with quality product, the ECU tuned and higher capacity injector, all tuned correctly, was out there with proven reliability and performance. it would be great.

i bet for about 1500$ max we could have about like 40 hp of gain ( again, with quality product and fine tuning of the ecu and injection.)
with 1500$ what do you have :
intake : ~300$ 7hp
header : ~300$ 7hp
exhaust line: ~600$ 5hp
chip : ~300$ 10-15 hp
and thats about it..


i bought a rc plane impeller to start with something
i received it, and it made of poor plastic, but look at these fans, they seems to push a lot and they r hand-made :

http://www.shredair.com/fan.html

i really want to try this forced induction project, but would like some support. not just reply about how dumb it is..

thank you

Sam

 

[Rio Racer]

I don't think electric superchargers will give you enough boost to have any gains and will probably make you lose power instead of gain it.

 

[TampaSport20]

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[SNike05]

I have thought about this many times. In fact the idea is not dumb at all. If a quality product is made that would utilize electricity to produce high pressure air I believe it would be most ideal. But the same question always comes to mind if it is such a great idea why hasn't it been done yet. Power is not an issue because converters can always be added to get what ever voltage you want. I guess to get this job done the only difficult task would be to find the proper equipment.

 

[SNike05]

I don't think electric superchargers will give you enough boost to have any gains and will probably make you lose power instead of gain it.

not really true because the amount of boost produced would entirely depend on the design of the whole thing.

 

[TampaSport20]

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[Jeph]

(deadhorse

 

[Crazee D]

checkout Thomas Knight turbos http://www.boosthead.com/home.php
It's legit but it needs to recharge after each use.

 

[altspace]

 

[Jeph]

Look at how many extra batteries you need, you'll need a higher capacity alternator to charge those batteries, and you still don't get the power of a real supercharger or turbocharger. you might as well install a nitrous system

 

[Crazee D]

Look at how many extra batteries you need, you'll need a higher capacity alternator to charge those batteries, and you still don't get the power of a real supercharger or turbocharger. you might as well install a nitrous system

Yeah, or a real turbo/SC

(jerkit)

 

[Jeph]

Hah, yeah, but thats not "cheap" enough...

Do it once, do it right, and NO an electric supercharger is NOT the right way to get more power.

 

[SNike05]

Ahh I didn't know they already existed. However the idea i'm thinking of would produce a constant amount of boost and not a short burst. Its not like i'm gonna do it its just ideas you know typical engineering brain.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Yeah it's a decent idea in theory, but when you think you will maybe get 40 extra hp, and you'll be adding 300 lbs of weight to the car. If this was a good choice, you would see them on cars in the real world, not just as gimmicks in show cars.

 

[Jeph]

There isn't really a way for you to give it constant power without driving off a belt like a traditional supercharger. You add more weight for less horsepower, that only comes in bursts, for this option, than a traditional turbocharger, or supercharger kit.

 

[ducktape]

thanks you guys for your replys, nice work tampa for your turbo kit.

by the way will you retune your ecu or will you buy something like an haltech ?

 

[TampaSport20]

thanks you guys for your replys, nice work tampa for your turbo kit.

by the way will you retune your ecu or will you buy something like an haltech ?

neither...I will bleed boost off the MAP sensor with check valves, run a 12:1 FMU, and run 330cc injectors to provide extra fuel for the turbo..this is all included in the $1500 I spent...

 

[SNike05]

There isn't really a way for you to give it constant power without driving off a belt like a traditional supercharger. You add more weight for less horsepower, that only comes in bursts, for this option, than a traditional turbocharger, or supercharger kit.

Yep that is my idea an electric motor to drive a belt. Yeah for sure the downside would be weight. I guess for the amount of HP that it would create the weight added would just cancel it out. But what if an electric motor is made that does not weigh much and spins fast with high torque is matched with a descent size belt driven supercharger. I guess many ideas come to mind but only putting it to work would actually determine if it is worth it.

 

[Jeph]

Yep that is my idea an electric motor to drive a belt. Yeah for sure the downside would be weight. I guess for the amount of HP that it would create the weight added would just cancel it out. But what if an electric motor is made that does not weigh much and spins fast with high torque is matched with a descent size belt driven supercharger. I guess many ideas come to mind but only putting it to work would actually determine if it is worth it.

Its not the weight of the motor thats the problem. Its the weight of everything needed to drive that motor. Thats why a supercharger and turbocharger work so well. They are using something already generated by the engine to force more air into the engine.

 

[SNike05]

Its not the weight of the motor thats the problem. Its the weight of everything needed to drive that motor.

the only thing driving an electric motor is electricity (wink)