Edmunds: MAZDASPEED3 is KING!!!

REad the whole thing earlier. I love the review abt the car. Now im torn between my MSP and the MS3. They only will be making 5000 of it they say.
 
I thought I would hold onto my Protege for 6-7 years but I don't think I'm going to make it. I'm three months from 4 years and my zero percent finance will be paid off..... I think I'll have to sell it when it's 5 years old and get a 2008 MS3. That, or a slightly used 2007 if I can find one. Problem is.... I think it's going to be hard to get book value for it... it's not a Honda. Is it wrong to wish someone would total me.... carefully?

I'm not 100% sold on the looks.... but just sick power and it's just over 3000 pounds.... I'm guessing with a cat back, hi-flow cat, intake, and MS6 flash it will be around 300hp. Not to mention the track handling sounds incredible.
 
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check out the new motor trend and the new car and driver, they both have first drives and spec's on the 3(RTM)
 
C&D. really? do they have anything good to say? I dont wanna make the treck to Safeway to be dissappointed.
 
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my wife got the mag. today, i have not have time do to hurricane coming my way, running around getting everything ready in case i have to go! , here is the first part in motor trend: ITS CREDENTIALS ARE IMPOSING 263 HP AT 5500 RPM 280 POUND-FEET OF TORQUE AT 3000. 0 TO 60 IN LESS THAN 6 SECONDS AND TOP SPEED OF 155 MPH AT LESS THAN 23000 US DOLLARS.
HAVE TO GO WILL COME BACK LATER. ANGELO(burnout)P.S MIGHT TRADE THE XRS FOR IT!
 
MS6S2K said:
Edmunds says 250hp at 5500, and 280 torque at 3000, so which one is right? It's just strange to me when I look at various dyno charts and see the 250hp Legacy GT putting out just as much, and sometimes better whp numbers while rated 24hp less. Either Mazda is being over generous, or Subaru is underrating their cars. It's probably a combination of both. :)

It's 263hp. I believe SCM dynoed the car. I had the magazine, but i left it at work. I'll double check tomorrow. Makes sense since mazda claims "over 250 hp"

I also read the C&D with the one page MS3 write up stating 0-60 time of 5.3 seconds. Can anyone else verify if this was an official test number, or just an estimate? Motor Trend has a manufacterer estimate of 5.8 seconds in their most recent issue, no official test from them though.
 
They don't say much in that article exept the fact that he understeered a lot and eventually lost it! Anyways, I don't think it will be as nimble as the MSP :)
 
It also seems like dodge is taking its sweet time with this caliber srt-4. They're probably crappin' themselves right now and waiting to see how well the ms3 performs before they 'officially' release it. MS3 has got so much more technology in it than the srt-4. Dodge may have to do some serious thinking about where they're going to be pricing this thing. MS3 should smoke it in just about every catagory regardless.
 
thats an awesome car , it will have 250hp and 260 pound of torque will be from 22k to 24k it has the same engine as the ms6 and cx-7 !!! 0-60 around 5.8 -6.0 seconds!!! The guy from the dealer told me that( he knows a lot LOL) early sep to late will be out in showrooms!!
 
Sorry to drag up the topic. But frankly im just pissed at mazda for making the MS3 a 5 door. Im sorry but you cant have a "hot hatch" unless its a 3 door. Im sure yall have seen the photoshops of it being 3 door........it looks bad ass! but with 5 doors its just crap. they should of stayed true to the 323 roots and made it a 3 door. then again i drive a BG 323.........maybe im held up in the past. Or maybe mazda was just being stupid, just like the rx-8 door design. i love mazda but they make some dumb ass choices in style
 
Mazda isn't stupid...

ocd-speed said:
Sorry to drag up the topic. But frankly im just pissed at mazda for making the MS3 a 5 door. Im sorry but you cant have a "hot hatch" unless its a 3 door. Im sure yall have seen the photoshops of it being 3 door........it looks bad ass! but with 5 doors its just crap. they should of stayed true to the 323 roots and made it a 3 door. then again i drive a BG 323.........maybe im held up in the past. Or maybe mazda was just being stupid, just like the rx-8 door design. i love mazda but they make some dumb ass choices in style

Nope Mazda isn't being stupid, they're reacting to the market and trying to release a car that appeals to a wide audience. Most people with kids won't look at a 3 door becasue it's hell trying to buckle in a child or install a child seat. That's one reason why I wouldn't consider the VW R32. Nice car but impractical for me. That's also why Mazda created the rear doors on the RX-8- flexibility/practicality.

Then again, I'm not crazy about the 5 door's styling. I own the 4 door and think it's much better looking- more European and upscale, while the 5 door looks like an economy car. That doesn't mean I wouldn't consider the Mazdaspeed3- after all power does corrupt (drive2). The lack of a sunroof does take it down a couple of notched however. Got to have my sunroof.
 

I agree with you about the sunroof part. It's something I wanted badly in mine and was not able to get, but the sedan vs. HB thing... well, just look at what I drive. :D I think it's Damn sexy and bolder looking than the sedan.
Then again, I like the sedans too.
And, oops!! I saw you were not the original poster of those spec sheets. :o
 
I just think their targeted market is males age 18-mid 30s. i dont think buckleing up a baby is a big concern to someone that wants a "sports car". the MS3 just looks like a lowered SUV now.....they should of gone the whole nine yards with the car....
 
ocd-speed said:
I just think their targeted market is males age 18-mid 30s. i dont think buckleing up a baby is a big concern to someone that wants a "sports car". the MS3 just looks like a lowered SUV now.....they should of gone the whole nine yards with the car....
Yes but those mid-30's males usually have a Wife and a couple of trophies.
:)
I don't care for the looks too much but DAMN a 155MPH top out is damn good for a sport compact.
Maybe with some spring and some wheels it would look less portly.
And to be fair all of the "sport" compacts are just gussied up grocery getters. They are family cars.
 
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