Does Anyone Make A SuperCharger For MP5

[1sty]

No fan at any velocity can produce boost. Only a compressor wheel can do that. Notice a turbos compressure wheel is fully encased and not just shooting into the intake stream. It has to take and compress the incomming air then shoot it out, a "fan" can not do this.

Also in a 12 Volt system there really just ins't enough electrical power to compress air. Once cars switch over to 48 volts in a decade or so then it may be more possible. But for know you will waste more power by spinning a larger alternator then you can by the 1 PSI of boost an electric compressor can make.

 

[ahb11m]

yeah i was fairly doubtful of the efficiency of such a system...

 

[deckedoutmp5]

belt driven SC are pointless, its just a centrafugal. a turbo belt driven... thats why they dont make them for our 4 bangers, no power and you dont get power till way up there.

money and power go turbo... there is no question. area51 and some others made a few but they were $$$ BLING $$$ costly and was only for show.

SC on 4 banger = the sucky TC on 4 banger = the s***

peace- trav

and the fan thing wont work, waste of money, might as well take a fiddy dolla bill and light it on fire and watch it burn.

 

[KzA]

yea..i think there isa reason here why there are no superchargers out on the Protege...would it make power? of course..but the bottom line is tha the HP to $$ ratio would be much much higher than it would be if you just went turbo

 

[flat_black]

Gah! Wagner, if I had the moolah, and was close enough, I'd be down there in a heartbeat to get the first SC. =) If you were to sell one of those kits, though, I would buy it up the INSTANT I got the cash for it. Pleeease?

 

[shinzen]

I know I'll get flamed for this, but oh well- the reason that people go for the turbo's primarily is more hp. Just like most people won't go N/A, the cost for the hp is waay cheaper with a turbo. However, the Supercharger is more streetable for track driving, without turbo lag you can turn better times on the track- but you generally won't boost as high, say 4-5 psi. But saying that a SC on a 4-banger is pointless, there are a lot of people with the jackson racing superchargers in the Honda/Acura scene, and they perform pretty well

and if anyone needs a test car, I would be happy to donate my car here in colorado for awhile

 

[KzA]

Noone is saying the SC is pointless, its just not really the best idea for our situation..WE currently have a variety of turbo kit manufacturers constantly making more and more developments for our cars. Why get a one off supercharger? I just doubt that you will make the amount of power that you would spending the same money on a turbo setup...

 

[70]

Most people want a Vortech or centrifugal blower...That kind is worthless on a four cylinder because all it does is make power up high, where a four cylinder makes power already.

Most people think the centrifugal blower is pointless because it combines the down side of the blower (low boost) with the down side of the turbo (lag). On a V-8 it's nice.

There are better options when it comes to super chargers than a centrifugal version.

A roots type blower would be nice (like what Jackson Racing does), but it won't be much of a power maker at altitude. It doesn't compress air like the centrifugal kind, it just pushes more in.

A whipple would be best (compresses air and fits like a roots), but making it all fit is a pain in the engine bay. Look at Flyin' Miatas whipple for the Miata and try going that way.

That's just MHO.

 

[shinzen]

kza- as I mentioned- you will make more power with a turbo- and stutters is absolutely right about the different types of SC's- and where you would really lack by going with a SC is support- lot's of people go turbo, therefore more options and support for how to best do it.. You would be venturing pretty much so into uncharted territory with any type of supercharger on our cars....

 

[speed-dog]

Thanks guys. When in doubt.....do nothing.
That's where I am now.

 

[shinzen]

If you really want to go the supercharger route, there is a guy in colorado springs to talk to by the name of reamer(?sp) who works with dealerships and manufacturers- I'll see if I can dig up his number for you- was going to have my integra done by him. And he offers a pretty solid warranty from what I remember

 

[70]

If you really want to go the supercharger route, there is a guy in colorado springs to talk to by the name of reamer(?sp) who works with dealerships and manufacturers- I'll see if I can dig up his number for you- was going to have my integra done by him. And he offers a pretty solid warranty from what I remember

Down in the Springs, eh? Do you happen know what kind of super charger he was going use?

 

[shinzen]

the eaton roots style- seen a couple o' honda civics running one and a dramatic increase in power

 

[70]

Even up here in no air land?

A 6 psi kit at sea level will be lucky to make 3 or 4 psi up here.

 

[shinzen]

Yep- I am not sure about the physics of it, but he was boosting at 5-6 psi up here at 7k feet- I think that some of the new eaton superchargers have started to do better due to design changes over the past several years- But it would make more sense from my understanding of sc's to go whipple style- but I am far from an expert- oh, and reamer was working with a couple of dealerships as well to keep the factory warranty with the cars as well-

 

[70]

Yep- I am not sure about the physics of it, but he was boosting at 5-6 psi up here at 7k feet- I think that some of the new eaton superchargers have started to do better due to design changes over the past several years- But it would make more sense from my understanding of sc's to go whipple style- but I am far from an expert- oh, and reamer was working with a couple of dealerships as well to keep the factory warranty with the cars as well-

That's cool that someone was looking into it...

I already have turbo though, and love it...

 

[nate0123]

I could not sleep. I will get to in a second

I would need a test car and it should come to $3000 to $3500 for a kit with a vortech supercharger.

Andrew Wagner
Wagnermotorsports.net

Ok, I live less than 2 hours away. How long do you need my car?

 

[flat_black]

Nate, you're my hero. =) You and Wagner are my only hope to being able to buy a supercharger next year!

 

[1sty]

Why do you guys want a supercharger over a turbo?

 

[deckedoutmp5]

Why do you guys want a supercharger over a turbo?

either:

A) consumed to much crack over a 10 minute period

or

B) want to be slower then the turbo people