Unfortunately, BMW just gets so many little details wrong! And why can’t they provide class-leading safety performance? only one that manages it is the X3, but that’s in its last year and rotten on the vine. BMW fail!And that was when the X5 B58 had only 335hp/330ftlb and now in BB58B30M2 form it puts out 375HP/384ftlb! Not that people are drag racing their SUVs or nothing!
CX-70 will have same exterior dimensions as CX-90
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2022 CX5 Signature - Machine Grey
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I will have to look for the Hofmeister kink tool in MS Paint..
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N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T
I'm afraid to Google this term. Lol
Once seen, you can never un-see it
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Mental note to self, don't let wife test drive a B58.
Now, being serious, should we go down that road (sort of a personal bucket list thing, that engine), we'd prob go for the x3 to get max power to weight ratio and easier commute...but the x5 would do to! Underrated HP figures for it as usual, I'm sure.
In general, I don't think it's impossible for someone to cross shop cars from mid 50s to 70s. I know a couple guys with money who intend to buy german but haven't yet. To some, 20k can be a relative impulse buy.
Some models also have trims which vary by 20k. Rare to consider all trims I guess at once, but at the same time, it's sort of the same car for a lot of difference in $.
Cars can be emotional, or bought on physical feel. You never know.
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After that look up bangle butt.
Not an impulse buy but I did consider a top trim near-$60k CX-90 against a GLS450 that starts at $81,800. I made the grudge Mercedes purchase since my wife likes the badge and we were replacing an older Mercedes SUV. If it was my car, I would've probably gone X7!Mental note to self, don't let wife test drive a B58.
Now, being serious, should we go down that road (sort of a personal bucket list thing, that engine), we'd prob go for the x3 to get max power to weight ratio and easier commute...but the x5 would do to! Underrated HP figures for it as usual, I'm sure.
In general, I don't think it's impossible for someone to cross shop cars from mid 50s to 70s. I know a couple guys with money who intend to buy german but haven't yet. To some, 20k can be a relative impulse buy.
Some models also have trims which vary by 20k. Rare to consider all trims I guess at once, but at the same time, it's sort of the same car for a lot of difference in $.
Cars can be emotional, or bought on physical feel. You never know.
Mazda did mention this in a recent interview.
Mazda's Turbo Inline-Six Will Get More Powerful
On a recent episode of The AutoGuide Show brought to you by Ebay Motors, we sat down with Jon Leverett, project manager for launch strategy at Mazda USA.The topic of discussion was the brand’s newest product, the upcoming CX-70 SUV.During our chat, our conversation inevitably turned to that of...
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“in terms of performance, these inline six-cylinder engines are obviously a first for us. This is just the first step. Expect more to come in terms of performance. We want to increase that threshold. In terms of performance, we want to push those thresholds even further.”
Most likely will be done for a refresh for the same generation. When does Mazda typically do a minor refresh?Mazda did mention this in a recent interview.
Mazda's Turbo Inline-Six Will Get More Powerful
On a recent episode of The AutoGuide Show brought to you by Ebay Motors, we sat down with Jon Leverett, project manager for launch strategy at Mazda USA.The topic of discussion was the brand’s newest product, the upcoming CX-70 SUV.During our chat, our conversation inevitably turned to that of...
“in terms of performance, these inline six-cylinder engines are obviously a first for us. This is just the first step. Expect more to come in terms of performance. We want to increase that threshold. In terms of performance, we want to push those thresholds even further.”
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1st gen CX-9 got a minor refresh for the 2010 MY (3 years), then a major refresh for the 2013 MY.
CX-5 got a refresh for the 2022 MY (5 years).
Mazda6 got a refresh for the 2018 MY (4 years).
Mazda3, CX-30, CX-50 have not received refreshes yet as they are still "new", but the 3 is due for one soon.
CX-3, CX-7, and 2nd gen CX-9 never got a refresh.
CX-5 got a refresh for the 2022 MY (5 years).
Mazda6 got a refresh for the 2018 MY (4 years).
Mazda3, CX-30, CX-50 have not received refreshes yet as they are still "new", but the 3 is due for one soon.
CX-3, CX-7, and 2nd gen CX-9 never got a refresh.
So basically whenever Mazda "feels like it" as opposed to some predetermined, escalating options/improvements on a product roadmap!
For the motor it will be more frequent and streamlined in. It might not even be mentioned as an update to published HP/TQ figures. I can guarantee there are already configuration changes to the motor since it's original introduction. Some are incidental based on parts supply and availability and some are reliability enhancements. But it doesn't take much to apply a new ECU map to improve drivability or increase power. As they learn more about the motor it will evolve fairly quickly if they want. They will learn better how much boost it can take reliably and that will be an easy increase in performance.
With the ND MX-5 in the U.S. there were 5 distinct versions for the transmission (all the same transmission) in the first 3 years. You could identify the configuration item differences and determine which version you got based on the serial number. My 2017 has V2 which started in production in Oct 2016 and ran through about July 2017.
N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T
And the first CX-5 got a refresh in 2016.5, then a whole new model for 2017. Was weird, like there were 2 different teams working on it and one was late in delivering, or the other was early. Wouldn't surprise me since Mazda was in a hurry to transition the brand upmarket.
I'm going to look at a X5 M40i and try real hard to talk myself out of going up to the M60i if I wind up buying. BMW has the engine/transmission figured out - but the steering/feel needs work.
Aww, you know you want to go to the 60
Looks like I'll end up with RX 3x0 number 6. The dealer I've used for 25 years has an online sticker for a vehicle they have, I did minor tweaks, MSRP should be 58K and change for what I'd want (get rid of a couple things that I don't care for, switch to Nori Green Pearl paint, do a PPF).
I think I'm in good shape as long as I don't drive it...a coworker sold his Explorer ST and is now in an X7 M60i after a short test drive. Dimensionally, the X7 isn't much bigger than the ST but it looks significantly larger. I'm in an Explorer ST as well and I don't want anything bigger. The engine/trans and even suspension are decent on it - it's all of the rattles, squeaks, faulty sensors, and recalls that I loathe.Aww, you know you want to go to the 60
Looks like I'll end up with RX 3x0 number 6. The dealer I've used for 25 years has an online sticker for a vehicle they have, I did minor tweaks, MSRP should be 58K and change for what I'd want (get rid of a couple things that I don't care for, switch to Nori Green Pearl paint, do a PPF).
The X5 40i is more than enough HP/TQ for almost everyone. I specifically wanted the B58 and didn't want the V8 and the massive loss in gas mileage it brings as this will be my wife's daily driver. The 40i is rated at 23 City, 27 Highway. I just wanted something that wasn't a dog because I will be the driver on trips. At basically 400 HP it really is enough! It is an SUV, not a track car.
And yes, the steering feel on late model BMWs is fairly poor given their history. And it is a damn shame! This is one area the Mazda's do well.
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Agree on all points!
