CustomMSP SMIC fitment sucks.

[daedalus]

Let me apologize for posting this prior to letting Custom know, I just want the fitment issue to be more clear to everyone. I did a few searches and still did not find anything regarding that issue.

Thats cool man. i'm not trying to rag on you too much, i just felt a little more tact and professionalism couldve been done. Its just scary how easy threads like this can deystroy a persons reputation so I just think we need to keep everything in perspective.

Anyway... hope you are happy with it and you can go enjoy your car!

 

[byohndspeed]

Let me apologize for posting this prior to letting Custom know, I just want the fitment issue to be more clear to everyone. I did a few searches and still did not find anything regarding that issue.

after i saw this thread this morning, i found about about the issue in less than 2 minutes. i went to the for sale thread and looked at the pics. i understand what you are seeing in his car without the fan it looks kinda flush. but i went another couple pages and someone who bought one posted his pics and you can see the issue on those.
all i can say is try to do more digging, i'm sure we all have bought something without doing as much research as we should have. but hey, it gives you an excuse to by fans with more cfm's

 

[jeffmsp]

just go get a fan that fits from a junkyard and be done with it. since it will be a little smaller add some redline water wetter.

 

[CustomMSP]

There will not be an issue with cooling with the way the fan sits. I really beat on my car for an hour and a half going to the dyno, then did 4 consecutive dyno runs about 15mins after I got there. The fan doesn't move at all the way it sits with my IC. There's really not a problem aside from personal preference.

Later.

 

[Tito1]

Just what we all want another opionion but...

1. The fitment of this SMIC may have been known on the board
2. A PM is a more tactful way of presenting a problem to a vendor...it gives them a chance to reconcile problems/issues

But knowhere do I see Spicy making a 'personal attack' on Custom MSP. Although the thread is titled quite harshly, the actual post is quite polite to Custom.

I just don't get why spicy deserves the middle finger ect. for making a post. Who is getting personal now? i also appreciate the vendors that make the phatty products for us, but that is no reason to lick their balls any time you get the chance.

Import turner market is huge...and this site...just marketing.

 

[CustomMSP]

It's all good. We worked the issues out. I appriciate everybody's opinions and support!

Thanks.

 

[dominoy2k1]

mazdaspeed owners...tisk,tisk. (stooges)

 

[4001]

Since when does improper form = the best function, Im not saying Customs product is no good I think it great but just because it doesnt have the best form doesnt mean it has the best function..Turbohoses fits fine and has about if not the same performance as Customs

 

[jurgs01]

Vendor Fees = Why the moderators say be nice to vendors. The more vendors, the more fees. As consumers we should feel free to give our opinions to other consumers with TACT (tact being a keyword). The worst that they can do is ban you for giving your opinion, and a whole bunch of people you don't know and will never meet might be mad at you. Any business you talk about tries to keep the customers happy. There is no reason to turn that around. We as consumers only have an obligation to be respectful to the vendors. It irks me when people say you should put ALL vendors up on a pedestal.

BTW, this is not directed at CustomMSP. I think he is a good vendor. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to criticize him or his product though.

 

[byohndspeed]

no one is saying improper form= best performance.. what custommsp did was what everyone sorta wanted, a cheaper smic that works well. he did this, but the downside was fitment, doesnt fit best but good enough for most people.

 

[4001]

no one is saying improper form= best performance.. what custommsp did was what everyone sorta wanted, a cheaper smic that works well. he did this, but the downside was fitment, doesnt fit best but good enough for most people.

I didnt mean it that way and I did word it worng..all Im saying is that everyone seems to be saying (as far as SMIC's go) is that the best product on the market for function is not the best for form...when thats not true. Turbohoses is equally good in terms of function with form being the same as stock

 

[girth]

But knowhere do I see Spicy making a 'personal attack' on Custom MSP. Although the thread is titled quite harshly, the actual post is quite polite to Custom.

I just don't get why spicy deserves the middle finger ect. for making a post. Who is getting personal now? i also appreciate the vendors that make the phatty products for us, but that is no reason to lick their balls any time you get the chance.

Import turner market is huge...and this site...just marketing.

Exactly. The mods and Antoine I'm sure wouldn't agree but this is an excellent thread. I've dealt a little bit with CustomMSP before and he's a great guy - always very helpful. But at the same time I want to know the opinions of buyers of any of the vendors's products - and taking their opinions I will form my own. We're not all complete brainless idiots that will blow off a vendor simply because of 1 negative opinion.

Having seen this thread I'm smarter for knowing what to expect out of Custom's SMIC and it still would be my first choice in IC for me personally.

 

[jurgs01]

Well put.

 

[CustomMSP]

Attention!

I need every person that has my IC with stock pipes only to PM me with their shipping address please. I'm going to send you some silicone hose to replace the stock rubber bands between the IC tanks and the stock pipes.

Please reply ASAP.

I'm told that the stock rubber bands will rip or already have ripped while transferring them over to the new IC.

Thanks.

 

[jurgs01]

Definately an A for customer service.

 

[mazdaowner123]

(mswerd)

 

[jersey_emt]

Vendor Fees = Why the moderators say be nice to vendors. The more vendors, the more fees. As consumers we should feel free to give our opinions to other consumers with TACT (tact being a keyword). The worst that they can do is ban you for giving your opinion, and a whole bunch of people you don't know and will never meet might be mad at you. Any business you talk about tries to keep the customers happy. There is no reason to turn that around. We as consumers only have an obligation to be respectful to the vendors. It irks me when people say you should put ALL vendors up on a pedestal.

BTW, this is not directed at CustomMSP. I think he is a good vendor. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to criticize him or his product though.

Ummmm...no...moderators don't see any of those fees. And neither do the administrators....those fees are REQUIRED to PAY for the site to operate.

The problem with this thread is the fact that the issue was not attempted to be resolved privately first. That is all. Why can't some people understand that? If he made his complaint privately, and nothing was done, then yes, by all means, post away. But people just can't go around making threads called 'this product sucks' before doing so.

 

[ArrestYellowMSP]

Look, I did research this product. I did not read EVERY thread but I read the install thread, the GB thread, and the thread when Jersey got it put in his car. I worked with ArrestYellowMSP yesterday, ask him what he thinks. The pictures in the install thread DO NOT show the fitment issue. In his pictures it sits flush with the radiator. There is also no overhead view showing the gap. I think that I am losing cooling efficiency because the fan is so far away now. I know I should have contacted custommsp first, but you have to understand that after the long install for a product that was advertised as "fits great" I had a right to be disgruntled.

When we looked online at most the threads we could find about this product, the pictures indicated that it was flush with the radiator. If someone else posted their install and it was not in a main thread than that would be why we probably missed it, since it would be in a corner we did not look in. The performance works, we were just confused for a while since we did not have a clear picture like the ones we took between the two SMIC's. If we had found a picture like the one we took from above then it would have been easier to see the fitment. That's all. But the CustomMSP SMIC gets the job done, I drove the car and works fine and I have the Turbohoses SMIC. Works exactly the same.

 

[CustomMSP]

I've updated the How To thread with this information.

Thanks.

 

[byohndspeed]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84443&page=7&pp=15

second set of pictures shows that it does not fit flush