custom supercharger project

[Rism]

I have already done tons of measurements and I know it will fit. The tubing will be a tad complex but nothing as hard as you make it sound.

 

[Paul Ruebens]

(sigh).....like a moth to the flame.

 

[Shane5425]

if all else fails dude, stick the charger out of the hood, give it the muscle look lol...

 

[Rism]

Well it looks like my plans have changed. I talked to Roddimus Prime and he filled me in on his current position and what he has found out.

So my eaton blower idea has gone out the window because I recently found out the blower has to come after the throttle body which would require a whole new intake manifold which I dont want to get involved with. So roddimus turned me over to a centrifigul blower that can produce as much as 20psi as opposed to the eaton blower that could only do 10. He also told me as far as he knows the AC is gonna have to come out. He plans on mounting the centrfigul blower under the PS and removing the AC. I plan on doing more research to see if their is a way to keep everything including the AC.

 

[70]

A whipple blower is the better bet.

But hey, good luck...

 

[Rism]

Hmmm well its possible this whole project might being going down the hole due ot the fact that im in contact with a forum member and probably will be buying his 2003.5 MSP.
So I will keep u updated

 

[anarchistchiken]

I havn't heard form stutters in a while. Is he still talking s*** not that the WOMP is done? Cause as soon as it got close to completion, he seemd to just not post about it anymore.


How would you even mount an Eaton blower about the exahaust mani. I can't even imagine it, cause the engine moves when you start it/give it gas, so you couldnt have one bracket going to the engine and one going to the radiator suport or anything like that. Did you have this figured out before you gave this up? I think it would be interesting to see what your plan was.

 

[Rism]

lol i remember this thread

 

[Super Matty P]

I originally started this with an eaton blower mounted above the exhaust manifold....i quickly turned away from it.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Man, that helps me understand how it was gonna be mounted a lot. Good info, thanks guys. (upyours)

 

[Rism]

it doesnt matter cause its not happening.

 

[Super Matty P]

there are bolts in the head that the stock heatshield screw into. The blower could've been mounted to it AND also the top row of header bolts/studs.

The problem with this design is that eatons put out higher charge temps anyway...then use the blower as a heatshield and you're only ASKING for more heat. Also re location of the TB and critical wiring is a deal breaker for almost everyone.

 

[70]

I havn't heard form stutters in a while. Is he still talking s*** not that the WOMP is done? Cause as soon as it got close to completion, he seemd to just not post about it anymore.


How would you even mount an Eaton blower about the exahaust mani. I can't even imagine it, cause the engine moves when you start it/give it gas, so you couldnt have one bracket going to the engine and one going to the radiator suport or anything like that. Did you have this figured out before you gave this up? I think it would be interesting to see what your plan was.

WOW! Nice to see I still piss you off even though I haven't been around much.

I didn't know the WOMP was done. Since it can't be talked about or advertised here (last I read), I didn't see any need to ask anymore questions about it.

I never knew what the time line was for the damn thing. So, I guess as compeltion got closer, Matty wouldn't shut his trap and was told not to talk about it anymore. See the above paragraph if your are lost as to why I stopped.

I can see you've thought out mounting a different blower in there. Where did I ever say to mount an eaton or whipple on the exhaust manifold? No where. I guess Matty tried it.

Another thing you seemed to have forgotten is that once Matty or whom ever finally said he didn't want to redesign the INTAKE manifold, I let that issue go.

But hey, let's pull up old threads and try attacking me some more.

 

[Dimitrios]

Does cannabalizing our "community" on here really help anyone?....this thread needs to die...

 

[anarchistchiken]

WOW! Nice to see I still piss you off even though I haven't been around much.

I didn't know the WOMP was done. Since it can't be talked about or advertised here (last I read), I didn't see any need to ask anymore questions about it.

I never knew what the time line was for the damn thing. So, I guess as compeltion got closer, Matty wouldn't shut his trap and was told not to talk about it anymore. See the above paragraph if your are lost as to why I stopped.

I can see you've thought out mounting a different blower in there. Where did I ever say to mount an eaton or whipple on the exhaust manifold? No where. I guess Matty tried it.

Another thing you seemed to have forgotten is that once Matty or whom ever finally said he didn't want to redesign the INTAKE manifold, I let that issue go.

But hey, let's pull up old threads and try attacking me some more.

All thist time and you're still a tool. Read the thread genious. I was asking what happened to you because I missed your inane comments and idiotic observations. I was asking Rism how he was planning on mounting a blower on the exhaust mani. How did you even find this thread and not even read it?

 

[noclue119]

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I'm not trying to attack but,

I rode in matty's car. After learning more about F/I, I believe his design is suprior than those on the Mazdaspeed. He placed the correct amount of load on the engine at the different RPM. Mazdaspeed didn't quite do it right and that is why people are blowing their engines are stock boost. The critical knowledge he has allows the S/C protege to be able to boost more and have a higher CFM rate than the mazdaspeed proteges but at the same time be reliable under higher boost levels.

The only thing is i wish his p5 had A/C.

 

[Super Matty P]

some of the other neat things about the design are like in that SCC mag article I posted online (both of them) where it discusses how a centrifugal supercharger puts load on an engine when it can tolerate the most actually making it safer. Also, having a large compressor allows me to cram more air into the engine at cooler temps decreasing the chances for detonation. Typically using a larger compressor like this means BIG lag but since the blower is belt driven it's always spooled.

There are MANY pluses to this kit and only 1 drawback. Nothing is without it's compromise. I personally think the gains out-weigh the costs but I am showing favoritism.

p.s. I'm hoping to have Miller's car boosted with the new blower in time for the B-b-q.....we'll go for another ride then!

 

[70]

All thist time and you're still a tool. Read the thread genious. I was asking what happened to you because I missed your inane comments and idiotic observations. I was asking Rism how he was planning on mounting a blower on the exhaust mani. How did you even find this thread and not even read it?

Typically when you quote somone, it implies that everything typed applies that to person. Unless of course, you put someone else's name in there.

And since you keep draggin this on and on and on, (deadhorse, that one is for you, dork...

 

[70]

I'm not trying to attack but,

I rode in matty's car. After learning more about F/I, I believe his design is suprior than those on the Mazdaspeed. He placed the correct amount of load on the engine at the different RPM. Mazdaspeed didn't quite do it right and that is why people are blowing their engines are stock boost. The critical knowledge he has allows the S/C protege to be able to boost more and have a higher CFM rate than the mazdaspeed proteges but at the same time be reliable under higher boost levels.

The only thing is i wish his p5 had A/C.

I never said the Mazdaspeed Protege is a great boosted car. I agree that the Mazdaspeed has issues, and depending on your point of view, you can either blame Calloway, Mazda or both. And seeing as how both Mazda and Calloway have done better in other projects, I think blaming both for the Mazdaspeed's issues is well placed.

And, if you were to read through the number of threads on this very topic (Matty's blower), as I tied things together from the little tid-bits here and there of things Matty was doing, I began to see that his idea could work.

I was waiting to see the results.

Now, I had my questions up front, and I feel there are other options availabe if you are willing to do the work. But Matty did a good job in packing this together, or so it sounds like.

anarchistchiken has some issue with me that he just can't get over for one reason or another.

All of this stuff is water under the bridge for me. Why anarchistchiken continually drags this out is beyond me...Maybe sales are slow and he thinks creating more crap will help...

 

[70]

some of the other neat things about the design are like in that SCC mag article I posted online (both of them) where it discusses how a centrifugal supercharger puts load on an engine when it can tolerate the most actually making it safer. Also, having a large compressor allows me to cram more air into the engine at cooler temps decreasing the chances for detonation. Typically using a larger compressor like this means BIG lag but since the blower is belt driven it's always spooled.

There are MANY pluses to this kit and only 1 drawback. Nothing is without it's compromise. I personally think the gains out-weigh the costs but I am showing favoritism.

p.s. I'm hoping to have Miller's car boosted with the new blower in time for the B-b-q.....we'll go for another ride then!

I'm glad things came together for you...

It sounds like everything went together well, and you have a good fabricator for getting your pipes done.

Are you allowed to point me a direction for pics of the finished set up??