Custom Performance Engineering's complete SPEED6 tuning solution
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dadasracecar
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None so far.
RevLimitLaunch
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are you running on a base preset tune right now? or just whatever? and since we got it established you hold 15psi consistantly thru the whole rpm without dropping off right? and in every gear? this is one of the biggest concerns for me right now as 1-2 like 11psi, while 2-4 like 4psi, 15-16psi doesnt come til 5-6...
dadasracecar
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You're getting beyond my understanding. Sorry, still a noob and the learnign curve is pretty steep. The piggyback is all zeros. The only thing different is the boost control loop being much more stable than the factory settings. That's a direct quote from Lou at CPE. The car feels completely different. I'm going out with Lou tomorrow afternoon to do a little road tuning and I'll get more info and understanding then. It suffices to say that this mod is the THE THING TO DO with this car.
RevLimitLaunch
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do you have a boost gauge? lol, all i really wanna know is if it holds the 15psi you said it was set at, thru every gear perfectly. cuz my 6, like others i hear reduces boost in lower gears.
on that note.....i think the turbo would hold 15 easy in 1 and 2 and 17 in 3 and above. If I had a manual boost control, that is what i would set mine at, and would feel comfortable for an everyday driver. I would go 16 psi in first, 17 psi in second, and 18 psi thereafter for a "hard driving/track" advance setting. that's just me though. i'm not doing any mods until after i do my FMIC upgrade. I should get those psi improvements with the CPE FMIC (according to CPE). The turbo should hold 17-18 psi with the 2-3 psi decreased pressure drop post install.(yippy)
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RevLimitLaunch said:
Right now Dadasracecar is just using the boost control, and it's set at 15psi. The difference he's feeling is probably due to the precise boost management. The stock wastegate control is pretty poor in that your boost goes all over the place, from idle to redline. Our boost control on the other hand uses a PID feedback loop to control the wastegate solenoid, as opposed to a straight duty cycle above or below the factory settings. So if the car is capable of making the boost you're requesting, then you'll get it.
From the tests we ran during development, we were able to hold up to 17psi to redline. It does taper *slightly* towards redline as the throttle does affect things slightly, but not even close to the MS3's throttle dance. Whether the turbo is running out of breath, or if the throttle is playing games with us is up in the air, and requires more testing. But to answer yor question, yes, the piggyback will help the car hold any boost pressure you desire, all the way to redline.
I'm actually in South Carolina right now, but when I return home I will post data logs which help illustrate my point.
Jordan
dadasracecar
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install pix
I thought I'd post a few more pix of the install. These are higher quality. If you don't know what you're looking for, you'd never see the extra set of wires going to the piggyback. If I have to take it out, it's just cut two zipties. The bypass plug is small and so I could tuck the extra wires around behind the ECU and likely no tech would ever spot it.
Here's a closeup of the ecu connectors that CPE needs for a PnP setup.
I thought I'd post a few more pix of the install. These are higher quality. If you don't know what you're looking for, you'd never see the extra set of wires going to the piggyback. If I have to take it out, it's just cut two zipties. The bypass plug is small and so I could tuck the extra wires around behind the ECU and likely no tech would ever spot it.
Here's a closeup of the ecu connectors that CPE needs for a PnP setup.
RevLimitLaunch
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damn i want it pnp so bad lol...i drive my car around knowing that its possible i could have a lot more power with a better power curve, and it kills me. (blowup)
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dadasracecar said:
Jason, thanks so much for posting high quality pictures! Now you can really see how great your installation looks!
Jordan
www.cp-e.com said:Right now Dadasracecar is just using the boost control, and it's set at 15psi. The difference he's feeling is probably due to the precise boost management. The stock wastegate control is pretty poor in that your boost goes all over the place, from idle to redline. Our boost control on the other hand uses a PID feedback loop to control the wastegate solenoid, as opposed to a straight duty cycle above or below the factory settings. So if the car is capable of making the boost you're requesting, then you'll get it.
From the tests we ran during development, we were able to hold up to 17psi to redline. It does taper *slightly* towards redline as the throttle does affect things slightly, but not even close to the MS3's throttle dance. Whether the turbo is running out of breath, or if the throttle is playing games with us is up in the air, and requires more testing. But to answer yor question, yes, the piggyback will help the car hold any boost pressure you desire, all the way to redline.
I'm actually in South Carolina right now, but when I return home I will post data logs which help illustrate my point.
Jordan
Damn, if I had known you were coming down to SC I would have gotten you to bring one of your piggybacks
, jk. If you don't mind me asking, what part of S.C. are you visiting? Sorry for the OT post.www.cp-e.com
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jbspeed6 said:Damn, if I had known you were coming down to SC I would have gotten you to bring one of your piggybacks
Buddy, if I could I would! Unfortunately all of the built piggybacks have been spoken for, and they're reserved for our beta testers. We're still trying to get some dyno time for dadasracecar, but things are pretty crazy at the shop right now. I'll be sure to update everyone as soon as we get him some dyno time.
My folks are retiring to Folly Beach, and I'm helping them get their electronics set up here (computer, t.v., stereo, fax, wireless internet, etc.). I've been absolutely blown away by how beautiful the area is, and the people couldn't be nicer. I've traveled all around the country before, and I've never met such friendly people. Now, I don't wanna go back to Maryland (rofl2)
Jordan
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www.cp-e.com said:
Hey Jordan, just looking for a status update on the release of this piggyback. It's been a week since the last post by you in this thread. Josh has had my CC info for some time as I should be one of the first to receive this. I am becoming quite anxious and would like to know a more precise time frame on the release of this. Thanks.
Karma_hunden
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- '04 protege, then '05 mazda 3i, then '06 MS6 GT, now '10 RX8 R3
this wait is stressing me out lol i grew a lump on my neck!
when do they estimate the release of the CP-E EMS?
when do they estimate the release of the CP-E EMS?
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trees said:
Yup, we're shooting for next week (evil)
Jordan
