Custom Fiberglass Sub/Amp Box (56k warning)

Mazdaspeed989

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2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
I'm taking a custom productions class at school so what better custom production to try than a fiberglass sub box. I'm making it for the stock sub and amp and to fit into the stock location. Here are some pics of my progress so far:
(Sorry about the huge pictures I don't know how to make them smaller)

Here's the basic structure:
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I couldn't find felt to wrap it w/ so i had to make due with a sheet:
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Here's a pic of it in my car so you can get an idea of how it will fit:
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With one layer of fiberglass:
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I'll be putting a second, maybe third layer of fiberglass on tomorrow and sanding will start next week. I'm planning on painting it a gloss black. I'll update my progress later. Lemme know what you think.
 
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I don't want to rain on your parade but that's a really bad way to mount your amp. I bet it'll look nice though.
 
pluto316 said:
I don't want to rain on your parade but that's a really bad way to mount your amp. I bet it'll look nice though.

care to explain? i don't know much/anything about audio.
 
The heat is intended to dissapate throught the heat sinks (the fins on your amp) natrually by rising from the board which is on the bottom side of the amp. So upside down it will cook your amp. I am mounting my amps upside down but I've also got 5 fans running air all over them. You can get some from parts express.

Day to day you should be fine, it's the long trips over 2 hours that will be the problem. The fact that you have an angle is better than flat. Just work in some circulation into your design.
 
I'll be putting a second, maybe third layer of fiberglass
that's very little... for a really strong wall i'd rather suggest between 5 and 7 layers...
 
neoturner said:
The heat is intended to dissapate throught the heat sinks (the fins on your amp) natrually by rising from the board which is on the bottom side of the amp. So upside down it will cook your amp. I am mounting my amps upside down but I've also got 5 fans running air all over them. You can get some from parts express.

Day to day you should be fine, it's the long trips over 2 hours that will be the problem. The fact that you have an angle is better than flat. Just work in some circulation into your design.
cut some small holes in the back of where your amp gets mounted.. like sideways cuts, to let the air dissipate through.
 
i've mounted amps upside down for years and never had a problem with any of them. thats just one of those stories you were told from someone trying to make them feel like they know something. logically yes, that would bad, but in reality, don't worry about it.
 
doesn't the stock setup have it mounted upside down?
TStar said:
that's very little... for a really strong wall i'd rather suggest between 5 and 7 layers...
Yeah i checked out the dried first layer today and will definetally do more than 2 layers.
 
Here is an updated pic...sanding was a pain in the ass. I took a grinder to the fiberglass to get it relatively smooth then covered it with bondo so that i would have a sandable surface to work with. I sanded it down as smooth as possible, primed it to see the blemishes that were left, bondoed it again as you can see in the pic, and monday i'll sand those out and hopefully get a coat of the final paint on. The area along the front is getting covered with another strip of painted wood to finish it off that's why it isn't smooth.
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Wow, I like it..Hook me up on some how to and some pointers in modifying an existing part like the body kit and all. I like the way it turn out.
 
A few things i've learned from this project
1. Fiberglass is a b**** to work with, if you can get some with the fiberglass pre-mixed in the resin that is the way to go.
2. Fiberglass does not sand easily so if you do have to use the strips like i did make sure you take your time and lay them as flat as possible, bubbles will come back to haunt you when you start sanding.
3. Take your time and be patient. I tried putting a lot of bondo on at once...bad idea, it starts to harden and gets chunky and just causes for a lot more sanding.

I'll post more details on my entire process later, the g/f is telling me to wrap it up
 
These are the steps I took:

This is by no means a How To just what I did and some suggestions

1: Figure out what design I wanted and take measurements

2: Build the wood frame for the box out of 3/4" MDF (Test fit after this is constructed)

3: Ideally I wanted to wrap it in fleece cloth but the fabric store I went to didn't have any available so I got just a white sheet instead. The fleece would be much easier b/c it stretches more and would be easier to form the curves I was looking for.

4: After it was wrapped I started on the fiberglassing, this is where the patience comes in. If you spend some time here it will save you a lot of frustration later on. Assuming you are doing your fiberglassing with the resin and fiberglass seperate, cut out small workable strips and only mix a small amount of resin at a time b/c it will start to gel and become very difficut to use. I put down one layer of fiberglass and let it dry/harden overnight then continued with about 4 more layers the next day. Be sure you don't leave any bubbles b/c once you start to sand they will become holes that will have to be filled.

5: B/c my initial fiberglassing was not that great I took a grinder to the box to get it as smooth as possible. (50 grit was not having a very good effect)

6: After the box was relatively smooth I applied bondo to fill in the irregularites. This is where I ran into another problem, I decided that I could mix a lot and apply it very quickly...bad idea. It started to harden while I was applying it and got applied in chunks that took a lot of time to sand out. This also caused air bubbles to form in the bondo that appeared during sanding.

7: After a couple of hours of sanding, filling, sanding, filling, sanding more I finally got it where I wanted it and sprayed a layer of primer. This is where a lot more blemishes appeared.

8: I've applied some more bondo to the areas that needed filling and next week I will sand it all down smooth, apply another 1-2 layers of primer then the gloss black goes on.

I can't stress the importance of taking your time. I have very little patience and it came back to bite me in the ass.

Hope this helps anyone thinking of tackling something like this. If you have any questions feel free to PM me or post. Also if you have any more advice post it up.

More pics will go up next week.

TStar said:
indeed. fibreglass is not only a PITA to work with, it's a huge risk for your health if you don't obeye the most basic safety at work instructions.

Good Point and good advice. Make sure you wear proper breathing protection. Not just a one of those white dust masks but something with a filter on it. You can get them relatively cheap at home improvement stores. Also be sure to work in a very well ventilated room or outdoors. I was lucky enough to have access to a ventilated paint room when I was doing the work.

Eye protection is also a must, fiberglass in the eye = bad/painful situation

Wear old clothes (pants and long sleeved shirt) with gloves...fiberglass will get everywhere

All this is important while applying the fiberglass and then again while you are sanding it
 
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indeed. fibreglass is not only a PITA to work with, it's a huge risk for your health if you don't obeye the most basic safety at work instructions.
 
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