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maybe you hit a really small patch of ice(or leaves) with a rear tire and started to slide. that combined with the abs system might have locked up the rear tires and caused you to spin out(dunno)
 
you got your answers. sticky summer performance tires on cold pavement. since there were no other parties involved you may have guessed it wasn't completly the cars fault so yeah people are going to say you were the reasoning behind your car spinning out.

bad deal for sure but good luck getting it back and fixed up. let us know how things do or do not turn out
 
sucks dude, hate to hear it. this sounds like all 3 times i slid and bent my steel wheels..then again it was snowing..all three times...and i was neck deep on the e-brake..so..actually..it doesn't sound like it at all..
 
If you were really going that slowly and it wasn't a sharp curve then it is odd that you spun out.........

But as was already said - braking and turning at the same time in the MSP will swing out the back end very easily. I found that out myself on the Auto-X track....just glad it was there instead of on the street. I recommend you go to at least 1 autoX

Was it damp (but not wet) outside? - if so maybe your brakes grabbed a little harder from a gentle push than usual....
 
hrrmmm i had my car fishtail when i ebraked....and was acting like an idiot going about 50 mph......yea...you guys should have seen the rim inside of the car...i wish i had a camera....literally, i had the first wrecked mazda.....
 
The MSP has pretty neutral handling (which is good). But more than once I got some oversteer when taking a corner really hard.

A lot of people don't know how to control oversteer, so if you were going faster than you say, this might be the reason you lost control.

I think it's the tires though...the stock Potenza's (summer tires) harden up in low temperatures, giving you hardly any traction, even in the dry. It's a HUGE difference between cold and warm temps with the stock tires. You really need winter tires on this car if the temperature ever gets below 40 degrees by you...even if it doesn't snow at all.
 
jdawg190 said:
I started to brake for a stop sighn when My msp all of a sudden loses traction in the back wheels and fishtails around to the left


that was your error, not the msp. a good craftsman doesn't blame his tools does he?(crappy analogy lol) also are you 100% sure it was not a sharp turn or you were only going 25 mph, something doesn't add up.
 
t3ase said:
whats the point of your attitude? he wrecked his car, get off of his ass. jesus. if your comment had nothing to do with him, dont post it in this thread. "new thread" buttons appear for a reason.
Practice what you preach
 
i wanted to know if anyone has some advice on how it could happen. [/B]
I already gave it to you. Get better tires and do not apply the brakes during a turn. Please accept my apologies. It is just that some kids (not you) want all this crazy HP and don't even know how to drive a car and all they do is cause accidents and kill themselves and other people. I am sorry I am getting off the subject again. I am sorry about your accident, but be glad everyone is OK. The car can always be replaced. Human lives are not replaceable.
 
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