Considering Selling for an S4...

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There is several immaculate Audi B6 2004+ S4's in my area for $13,000-15,000 I think they are more along the lines of a C5 non z06 in price.

With that said a C5 is quite the bargain, id take a C5 over a Z06 and then do intake, exhaust, cam and have alot more power then a Z06 and not to mention Targa top for the win.

bolt ons + cam you are easily 380-415whp and i dont think you can get a Z06 with targa plus you will still be cheaper then a z06. a friend of mine picked up a bone stock 01 C5 6spd for $13,500 and runs 12.80@111mph. hate to see what he will run with some mods...

 

[bigdaddy]

There is several immaculate Audi B6 2004+ S4's in my area for $13,000-15,000 I think they are more along the lines of a C5 non z06 in price.

With that said a C5 is quite the bargain, id take a C5 over a Z06 and then do intake, exhaust, cam and have alot more power then a Z06 and not to mention Targa top for the win.

bolt ons + cam you are easily 380-415whp and i dont think you can get a Z06 with targa plus you will still be cheaper then a z06. a friend of mine picked up a bone stock 01 C5 6spd for $13,500 and runs 12.80@111mph. hate to see what he will run with some mods...

yeah, im sure you can pick up a Z06 for a nice price, but the B6 S4's are a lot more practical. Im looking at Stage 3 B5 S4's, which run high to low 11's on the track. Plus the Audi has Quattro, the best AWD in the world, and it has 4 doors. Not to mention, insurance is probably cut in half

 

[Saskatchewan17]

Holy s*** that S4 vid car is fracking fast. I don't think I'd ever want to daily a car that fast though... I dunno... I wish I had a piece-o-crap special civic/corolla/other to daily and make the MS3 a garage queen.

 

[jred321]

Plus the Audi has Quattro, the best AWD in the world

lol

 

[bigdaddy]

lol

yeah, cuz jeeps got that hella good AWD

 

[jred321]

what do jeeps have to do with anything? they have 4wd, not awd

 

[bigdaddy]

I know, my point. You said LOL, and I said that as a joke. What cars have a better AWD? I would like to argue this...lol

 

[92gsxr7501029]

I say go for it. I regret everyday trading in my Expedition for my Speed3 as my DD. it has been the least reliable car I have ever owned. A 2 year old car should not have anything fail. At forty thousand miles it takes the maint of a car with three times the miles. I would dump it but I'm looking for a nice Aston Martin DB and I'm keeping it as a work car. Buy the Audi. It's not going to have many more problems than a Speed and for what it is worth as least it is an Audi

 

[jred321]

i would say quattro is superior to the AWD systems of ford, mazda, honda/acura, and any other FWD based AWD systems.

i'd say it is comparable to the normal AWD system that come in a subaru, mitsubishi, BMW, and maybe even a merc.

the AWD systems of the STI and evo are superior to that of the standard quattro found in the B5. both systems feature adjustably locking center differentials (ACD in the evo, DCCD in the STI), limited slip front and rear differentials, as well as yaw sensors in the most recent iterations.

quattro in the B5 uses a torsen center diff with a 50/50 power split but open front and rear diffs, using the brakes to simulate a limited slip based on ABS sensor input. good, reliable, but basic, if you will

then of course there are the supercar AWD systems but those aren't even worth talking about, especially as they're performance oriented and don't have the daily drivability most people look for in an AWD car.

quattro is a good AWD system. however saying it is the best is a stretch as it is a pretty simple and really does not offer anything superior to what any of the other non-FWD based systems have to offer.



the LOL was because the only people who think quattro is the best AWD system are audi fans and they're the only ones who ever say that

 

[gonerogue]

...it has been the least reliable car I have ever owned. A 2 year old car should not have anything fail. At forty thousand miles it takes the maint of a car with three times the miles...

I wouldn't say your experience is the norm.

 

[bigdaddy]

i would say quattro is superior to the AWD systems of ford, mazda, honda/acura, and any other FWD based AWD systems.

i'd say it is comparable to the normal AWD system that come in a subaru, mitsubishi, BMW, and maybe even a merc.

the AWD systems of the STI and evo are superior to that of the standard quattro found in the B5. both systems feature adjustably locking center differentials (ACD in the evo, DCCD in the STI), limited slip front and rear differentials, as well as yaw sensors in the most recent iterations.

quattro in the B5 uses a torsen center diff with a 50/50 power split but open front and rear diffs, using the brakes to simulate a limited slip based on ABS sensor input. good, reliable, but basic, if you will

then of course there are the supercar AWD systems but those aren't even worth talking about, especially as they're performance oriented and don't have the daily drivability most people look for in an AWD car.

quattro is a good AWD system. however saying it is the best is a stretch as it is a pretty simple and really does not offer anything superior to what any of the other non-FWD based systems have to offer.



the LOL was because the only people who think quattro is the best AWD system are audi fans and they're the only ones who ever say that

Yes, you are correct, but I am not only an Audi fan. Actually, I am a HUGE BMW fan, but unfortunately, everything that BMW has made as of the past 10 years is either too beat up or too expensive. I am biassed, but not towards Audi alone. I love European cars, and they each seem to do something different. Quattro is generally more of a performance AWD system. It has several iterations, ie, the R8 has a 70/30 power split, and cars like the S4 and the Allroad have a 50/50. BMW's X-drive is generally geared towards winter driving. All of their cars are RWD(excluding the X5 and X6), and the X-drive is an option on vehicles like the 3, 5, and 7.

So Im simply saying, yes, maybe that was a blanket statement, but I truly think that Audi has the best experience building AWD cars. I mean, look at the original Quattro, it brought AWD to the scene. Without Audi, AWD might not exist in road cars today...

 

[boosthead]

I have a b5.5 Passat and found it to be the most maintenance intensive car I've ever owned. I purchased it as a 1 owner, dealer maintained used car with 60k miles and have had to replace parts that never failed on Honda's with 200k miles.

I saw someone else mention poor reliability and the reply was that poor reliability isn't the norm, but I encourage you to spend some time on the Audi/VW forums before deciding whether to make the purchase. I ignored the warnings and after purchasing it, found the feedback regarding maintenance/repairs to be true.

A 10 year old car with 100k miles has the potential for requiring large amounts of maintenace/repairs. Replacing the timing belt, clutch, and turbos all cost about $1k each. All are very common repairs for the s4, and the TB is due if it hasn't already been replaced. They are solid cars, quiet, offer alot of car for the money, but they have a reputation for requiring many little (and large) repairs with a high total cost of ownership.