We will be providing extended bolts for the kit as I know that it helps a good bit! So that will also be included in the kit cost as well as another stock gasket, that way you will have a good solid seal with your original gasket on one side and a new stock gasket on the other side. The spacer itself would seal decent, but I'd rather do it all the way and provide a higher quality kit!
Coming Soon! Phenolic Thermal Insulating Gaskets
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Mad Hatter
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TurfBurn said:
Me? Giddyup!!
Dropped off materials and drawings for protos today before lunch. I should have 2-4 gaskets in my hands as soon as the machine shop can cut them out. I'll fit them, make adjustments and then we'll be ready to go. Everything now is just turn around time from the machine shop.
The material that is likely to be our primary gasket has 25% better thermal insulating properties over phenolic. So we will be initially starting with 3/16" spacers, and will offer them cheaper than 1/4" spacers which we can also make per request or may have in stock as well.
Thanks guys!
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
The material that is likely to be our primary gasket has 25% better thermal insulating properties over phenolic. So we will be initially starting with 3/16" spacers, and will offer them cheaper than 1/4" spacers which we can also make per request or may have in stock as well.
Thanks guys!
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
We hope to do the TB spacers as well.. but the NA guys with intakes may have problems with them because of the position of the master cylinder. However, turbo guys should be ok. We'll check the fit on an MSP stock system as well to check to be sure. The TB is more complicated because you also have to deal with coolant passages.Bigg Tim said:
The TB and the IM's will likely both be available in polycarbonate and phenolic depending how how things go with getting the cut this week at the machine shop (polycarbonate can crack during cutting.. so they are checking that.. and phenolic has a tendency to delaminate and can asorb water.. which isn't the best considering it is being cut with water).
Polycarbonate is actually the better choice anyway, and based on my research has much better insulating characteristics and can withstand all necessary pressures and heats.
As far as other tricks up our sleeves... we are going to hopefully get some progress made on some important circuitry this weekend that will help us make a very good O2 simulator, a voltage clamp, finish the MAF signal conditioner, and also hopefully add some nifty toys that will allow stock vehicles to richen their mixtures slightly so that they are less prone to detonation. Additionally, we plan to be developing air ducts for brakes very shortly as well to help keep them cool. They will likely mount to the control arm itself and scoop air from under the vehicle without cutting ground clearance and provide very good flow. Should be interesting to see how it works!
Not to mention i am also developing the Microtech engine management system to be ready to go for Protege's. So plenty of stuff in the pipeline!
Later!
Steve
I have an N/A P5 with Outlaw Engineering Spacers (TB and IM) and an Injen CAI... I have no clearance issues.TurfBurn said:
There are no coolant passages between the TB and IM... at least on the P5 anyway... it's just a gasket with a big hole in itTurfBurn said:
I thought the major problem with these cars is that they run way too rich... can you make something that will lean it out a bit? (thumb)TurfBurn said:
One of the cars we will be test fitting on is a KandN typhoon intake with SERIOUS clearance issues.viVid said:
How was your fit on the spacers when you got them? My one experience them on my brothers car was a TERRIBLE fit and a lot of cleanup to get them to fit nicely.
Haven't taken it apart yet to check where the passages are. I saw mention of the need of something relative to the coolant in the TB when I started looking into it, but I have not done anything about that yet. I'll deal with the hurdle when I get there, but I understand what you are saying, and if that is the case that there is NOTHING that needs to be done relative to the coolant we will be able to do the TB gasket pretty quickly.There are no coolant passages between the TB and IM... at least on the P5 anyway... it's just a gasket with a big hole in it
Depends on what portion of the load band you refer to. When they are in open loop they are too rich, when they are in closed loop they are too lean. So since closed loop works off certain sensor I'll trick them to make the car go richer, and if I can I'll make the open loop parts go leaner. But it is always safer to go rich than lean... so Hence I lean toward that for the products regardless.
Oooo, ooooo, oooooo can't wait to see this.(thumb)TurfBurn said:Additionally, we plan to be developing air ducts for brakes very shortly as well to help keep them cool. They will likely mount to the control arm itself and scoop air from under the vehicle without cutting ground clearance and provide very good flow. Should be interesting to see how it works!
flat_black
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Ooooooh, rockin! Brake ducts sound cool!
They'll end up mounting up where the heat/dust shield currently is. Our brakes really are filled up as far as the center space where the air is suppose to flow in. It will take some fiddling to get to work out... but right now the spacers and so forth are higher on the list. But at the worst we should have these ready before next summer... hopefully MUCH sooner... but they are on the list of development.
Got word back from the machine shop. I'll have my prototypes on Monday I guess, so about 6 days from now. Then I'll find out what the lead time is going to be and test fit the protos for you guys. Then we'll be set to go at that point.
Later!
Steve
sale@nsnmotorsports.com
Later!
Steve
sale@nsnmotorsports.com
LOL.. that is sweet . I have an idea on pricing currently, Looks like the intake manifold gaskets/spacers will run about 52 bucks each. No word on the TB's yet (but they will be much cheaper.. probably 20-30 bucks each) as I'm waiting to get the IM's done first. Once those are done and all set then we'll get the TB's going and they'll be a very quick turn around. Lead time on parts is going to be about 2 weeks. I hope to have my testing and verification complete by the end of this week so we'd have parts before the end of this month, hopefully much faster. In theory if we are lucky we could have parts ready for sale as early as the 18th.
If we get larger order numbers together the price can be dropped considerably. Doing these in small batches is very pricey! Ideally batches of 9-10 will yield us the cheapest results without having to go to larger numbers.
I'll post pictures of the parts and show the fit and some testing as best as I can!
Thanks,
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
. I have an idea on pricing currently, Looks like the intake manifold gaskets/spacers will run about 52 bucks each. No word on the TB's yet (but they will be much cheaper.. probably 20-30 bucks each) as I'm waiting to get the IM's done first. Once those are done and all set then we'll get the TB's going and they'll be a very quick turn around. Lead time on parts is going to be about 2 weeks. I hope to have my testing and verification complete by the end of this week so we'd have parts before the end of this month, hopefully much faster. In theory if we are lucky we could have parts ready for sale as early as the 18th. If we get larger order numbers together the price can be dropped considerably. Doing these in small batches is very pricey! Ideally batches of 9-10 will yield us the cheapest results without having to go to larger numbers.
I'll post pictures of the parts and show the fit and some testing as best as I can!
Thanks,
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
