Cobb Access Port on Mazdaspeed6

[bova80]

what does talking about the proceed or xede having anything to do with this topic? not to be a dick but its not contributing.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

what does talking about the proceed or xede having anything to do with this topic? not to be a dick but its not contributing.

i am just answering questions. i don't see how its harmful, but its not my thread so i'll refrain from piping any further if its going to cause anyone any grief.

koenig, go ahead and pm me and we can discuss there

 

[Koenig]

what does talking about the proceed or xede having anything to do with this topic? not to be a dick but its not contributing.

To display the benefits of the AP over the other ECU options? (thumb)

 

[06turbospeed]

now the AP states in Street Unit that the stages

Stage 1 (Completely stock)
Stage 1 + COBB Intake (COBB SF Intake only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 (Turbo-back exhaust only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB Intake (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB SF Intake, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + FMIC (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB SF Intake + FMIC (turbo-back exhaust, COBB SF Intake, and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock

so you can only use cobb intake and FMIC (that if not even made for MS6). Is this true??? or just what they say to make us bye more of there parts???

 

[Redsand426]

so you can only use cobb intake and FMIC (that if not even made for MS6). Is this true??? or just what they say to make us bye more of there parts???

I think Cobb said CPE's intake performs like stock. So wherever it says stock intake required, cpe's would work.

 

[bova80]

stage 1+SF intake is also good for catback exhaust.

and captainkrm i wasn't talking directly to you, i was just trying to keep this from straying off since koenig was askinga bout all the other ones i thought it was going to take a turn. alls good.

 

[Koenig]

I think Cobb said CPE's intake performs like stock. So wherever it says stock intake required, cpe's would work.

That doesn't make any sense though, because the stock intake is very restrictive. How does CP-E perform like stock if people have gotten gains from me? (poke)

And when did Cobb make a FMIC for the speed6?

All I want to know is if the AP is going to come with software for me to modify it myself.

 

[Qwik6]

I never understood why they released it and say you need an SF intake when they dont even make it for this car yet. Im hoping they put out a map like they did on the MS3 where you have an option of the MS CAI which a lot of people have.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

stage 1+SF intake is also good for catback exhaust.

and captainkrm i wasn't talking directly to you, i was just trying to keep this from straying off since koenig was askinga bout all the other ones i thought it was going to take a turn. alls good.

no problem, we took the conversation to PMs

 

[lasermp5]

wow... I want a ms6

 

[bova80]

That doesn't make any sense though, because the stock intake is very restrictive. How does CP-E perform like stock if people have gotten gains from me? (poke)

And when did Cobb make a FMIC for the speed6?

All I want to know is if the AP is going to come with software for me to modify it myself.

in regards to being like stock it means the MAF will still function the same, not the restrictiveness.

also it isn't for a COBB FMIC, its for a FMIC in general.

None of those parts are cobb specific except for maybe when they say SF intake in which like me I'm using the ms3 one, which they said is ok.

 

[delmari]

why does their website (cobb) show the stock HP around 180? anyone hav any dyno info after install?

 

[bova80]

because all of cobb's dynos are done in UTAH at an elevation of 5kft. you lose a lot of hp with increasing elevation, somewhere around 25% or so. On the other mazda 6 forum there is a dyno that shows the gains from the AP and they prove to be good.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

cobb also uses a different dyno than alot of places. most people are used to seeing dynojet numbers, i believe cobb uses a dynodynamics unit, so its going to read and report differently. the important factor on a dyno is not the number, its the difference between two numbers.

 

[Koenig]

cobb also uses a different dyno than alot of places. most people are used to seeing dynojet numbers, i believe cobb uses a dynodynamics unit, so its going to read and report differently. the important factor on a dyno is not the number, its the difference between two numbers.

Thats like a Mustang Dynamometer right? better known as "mustang dyno"? From what I've read mustang dynos are more "real world" specific in regards to the power you're actually putting down on the asphalt...... Mustang dynos are "load" dynos, where as dynojets are "inertia" dynos. Meaning mustang dynos put a load for the car to work against, where dynojets are simplely spinning the roller drums, is that true?

and if so... then Cobb uses the "mustang dyno" type? That would make sense because then Cobb would be showing you what you're actually (to a degree) able to gain off your car, and I suppose if you wanted to go and get yourself some "smack talking" numbers you could go on a dynojet and get that.

 

[djdanny5000]

So a few questions, does the Cobb AP open the throttle plate 100% to redline also, I have a MS CAI, Test Pipe, and HKS Blow Off Valve which map would you recomend. I plan on installing the Corksport CBE pretty soon.

 

[cohen086]

yea i was wondering which map also. I have cpe turbo back exhaust and cpe cai and hks bov

 

[delmari]

ok i'm a newb. so fill me in. in comparison with the Cobb AP, where does CP-E sit? they have done alot for the MS6 and they have great support. but how much do i have to invest to get the same results? Standback, PNP, Control Flash vs. Cobb AP. there's so much goin on right now with the MS6, I can't keep up.

 

[m4tic]

ok i'm a newb. so fill me in. in comparison with the Cobb AP, where does CP-E sit? they have done alot for the MS6 and they have great support. but how much do i have to invest to get the same results? Standback, PNP, Control Flash vs. Cobb AP. there's so much goin on right now with the MS6, I can't keep up.

cobb is around $700 for all that, you just cant tune it yourself yet.

 

[firespeed6]

Can we run this AP with the mscai-forge bpv-test pipe and magnaflow cat-back? Or do you need a sri?