clutch slipping??????????

[Metallic36]

Did a little research, and from what I've found for a stock replacement, the clutch is the same for an 01-03 Protege, and the Mazdaspeed Protege.

Models Will Fit;
- 2001 Mazda MP3
- 2001 to 2003 Mazda Protege and Protege5 with 2.0 liter engine
- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege

The Exedy clutches (Stage 1, 2, etc) are the same for the regular Proteges and the MSP's as well. Maybe it just depends on the brand used since the Spec clutches are different, yet the Exedys are the same. As far as the clutches that came in the vehicles directly from the factory, I wouldn't know.

 

[orng1]

The MSP clutch was pretty good for holding power and driveability. I tried to baby it, never let it slip to bad when taking off but the turbo upgrade did it in. It still drove until the LSD broke but I knew it was on it's way out.

 

[pavone]

Did a little research, and from what I've found for a stock replacement, the clutch is the same for an 01-03 Protege, and the Mazdaspeed Protege.

Models Will Fit;
- 2001 Mazda MP3
- 2001 to 2003 Mazda Protege and Protege5 with 2.0 liter engine
- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege

The Exedy clutches (Stage 1, 2, etc) are the same for the regular Proteges and the MSP's as well. Maybe it just depends on the brand used since the Spec clutches are different, yet the Exedys are the same. As far as the clutches that came in the vehicles directly from the factory, I wouldn't know.

are the part numbers the same for an 03 protege clutch and an 03 speed clutch? i know the location is the exact same and thats why all the parts are interchangable but i feel as that something mazda (should have) caught or made was stronger for the extra 40 horse

 

[Metallic36]

The one I listed was the "stock replacement" from Protege Garage, I'm guessing the part number would be the same since it is supposed to be for either the MSP or the regular Protege. Maybe that's where the aftermarket clutches come in a far as the extra hp compensation. But.. if the Spec clutches are different between the MSP and regular Protege, does that mean you can use a higher stage clutch from the regular Protege in an MSP and it would be equal to a lower stage MSP clutch since it would fit either way? Confusing thought.

are the part numbers the same for an 03 protege clutch and an 03 speed clutch? i know the location is the exact same and thats why all the parts are interchangable but i feel as that something mazda (should have) caught or made was stronger for the extra 40 horse

 

[mazdaspeedp]

just talked to the mechanic he says the mazdaspeed clutch is just a regular stage 1 clutch exedy and its gonna be 720$ to replace including labour

 

[1QWIK7]

First you have to know WHAT TYPE of clutch you put in.

Just cause it was hard at first/hard later on, doesnt mean anything.

There are alot of factors that play a role in how hard your clutch pedal would be.

Whether its a hydraulics issue, or simply cause you bought a puck clutch instead lol

 

[Metallic36]

Maybe you could take it to another shop and get a second opinion.. have the second shop drive the car, just to make sure the current shop didn't put it in wrong or something stupid like that. That would suck if the original shop did, and then you'd be paying them labor for their mistake.

just talked to the mechanic he says the mazdaspeed clutch is just a regular stage 1 clutch exedy and its gonna be 720$ to replace including labour

 

[Metallic36]

The shop put in an Exedy Stage 1.

First you have to know WHAT TYPE of clutch you put in.

 

[JDM Sam]

check your part #, & read my Transmission Guide

 

[TheMAN]

I was simply pasting an example. Aftermarket or stock, MSP vs. P5, they are both different aren't they? If they are different as you said, then it shouldn't matter if we are talking about a stock replacement or aftermarket.

it totally matters when you're looking at stock replacement or aftermarket performance

stock replacement, you HAVE to be particular which car applies to because of different specs... just because it fits doesn't mean it will work right!

aftermarket performance, who cares... it's all interchangeable no matter it's an MSP or not anyway... all the 2.0 proteges use the same tranny so you can put a stage 3 clutch in a stock 100whp protege and it'll work "fine"

Did a little research, and from what I've found for a stock replacement, the clutch is the same for an 01-03 Protege, and the Mazdaspeed Protege.

Models Will Fit;
- 2001 Mazda MP3
- 2001 to 2003 Mazda Protege and Protege5 with 2.0 liter engine
- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege

The Exedy clutches (Stage 1, 2, etc) are the same for the regular Proteges and the MSP's as well. Maybe it just depends on the brand used since the Spec clutches are different, yet the Exedys are the same. As far as the clutches that came in the vehicles directly from the factory, I wouldn't know.

which is why I asked the op to make sure that the right clutch was put in... furthermore, despite protegegarage being trustworthy, you should NEVER trust a vendor selling parts for info as they sometimes make mistakes and therefore the information is never accurate... what you should've done was look on exedy's website instead

all your tenacity has done so far was add confusion to this thread

 

[Metallic36]

Alright.. so exact stock replacement is different, and aftermarket clutches are the same. To TheMAN: I am learning, and do not appreciate your personal remarks toward me or anyone else. Nobody deserves it. If someone is not correct and you know you are right, then say it in a respectful manner. If we are wrong about something, then we will learn and then know the facts. I am asking to get answers and trying to understand what you are saying, and in no way am I arguing with you, so it is a bit hard for me to understand why you are coming off as rude. I apologize for not knowing as much as you; I would like to learn more about this topic and think that some expanding on this topic will help others as well, but do not see the value of the personal remarks you make.

We all know now that the OP's shop put in an Exedy Stage 1 clutch, which is a step up from a stock replacement, and according to Crossover's website is an OEM replacement alternative. It seems as though the Stage 1 will fit the MSP and the regular Protege since TheMAN stated that the aftermarket clutches are interchangable. Since the Exedy Stage 1 clutch is not the same as the stock clutch, I'm going to guess that it is considered "aftermarket". The Exedy website isn't much help as they do not list the MSP under any of their clutches that I found on there.

With that said, what could have went wrong to make the OP's clutch be in this condition? Could something have went wrong at the shop where they didn't install it correctly, or ?

I have one question regarding aftermarket clutches.. I tried to ask earlier but apparently it was not understood. If the aftermarket clutches are indeed the same and interchangable, why would the Spec website have different clutches for the MSP and regular Protege? (I previously posted that they were different because of what I saw on the Spec site) Because if they are interchangable and if it doesn't make a difference between the P5 or MSP, then couldn't someone use a SZ943F instead of the SZ333F (both Stage 3+ clutches) and although the torque capacity is a difference of 46, save some money that way by getting the SZ943F? Just verifying to learn, not looking for smartass responses, please.