Celica GTS

[jonlong]

Does anyone have any experience with the Celica GTS. If so, how does it compare with the P5 as far as power (i know it has 180hp), handling, interior quality, exterior quality, etc...

 

[Replica]

I test drove one. "No torque" comes to mind. I remember my civic DX throwing me in the seat after a test drive in a GTS. They handle great, and feel really light on their feet. But you wait waaay too long for the hot cam to work, and it doesn't last long...

 

[Leonardo]

what ^ he said. stomp the gas, lots of noise (whining-like sound), and you wait, and wait, then lots more noise (more whining) and then you move. handles pretty good though, but way too much waiting and way too much noise.

 

[centsless]

my friend has a 02 GTS and i have a 02 P5, we were driving through some bak roads with sharp 90 corners, and i was able to keep up with him. ( i was flying through my gearbox to keep up), but the p5 did well with the GTS.

ive personally driven it a couple of times, and its a fun car to drive. you may get more looks with the GTS, with the high spoiler and all that, but i probably will stay neutral in deciding in which car is better in all aspects.. its really difficult to say.

 

[anarchistchiken]

The GT-S is great if you do all your driving on a race track above 6,000 rpms. It just lacks the low end grunt that I like, and it's the same reason I dont like hondas. But they do handle like gnarly beasts

 

[Replica]

Making power is fine above 6,000 rpm....but it fuel cuts at like 7400-7600...**** that. The fuel cut scared the hell out of me every time because it came so soon, like right in the middle of the pull.

A "Honda" is a little different. A B16 will go to high lift at 5900 and fuel cuts at 8300. That's a ton of revs to work with. When rowing through the gears you're always in the cam you need.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Making power is fine above 6,000 rpm....but it fuel cuts at like 7400-7600...**** that. The fuel cut scared the hell out of me every time because it came so soon, like right in the middle of the pull.

A "Honda" is a little different. A B16 will go to high lift at 5900 and fuel cuts at 8300. That's a ton of revs to work with. When rowing through the gears you're always in the cam you need.

Oh yeah totally, but I meant the lack of low end. And that's, what, a b16C? I dont know the letters real well, but that's not exactly standard equipment on most cars

 

[daKiNeP5]

I love when the GTS hits lift! Feels and sounds sooo good.

 

[FunkyBuddha]

^^^ ya..then it's over 1500rpm's later

 

[daKiNeP5]

But its still an awesome feeling

 

[rustychops41]

Scapamouche used to have/autocross one, he should be able to answer any questions

 

[freshorange]

my last car was a celica gts2000. my mazdaspeed puts the power to shame. car didnt have any real balls but the car ride is much better than my speed.

 

[NRRfrogmanP5]

p5= cooler

 

[jonlong]

what about interior quality and stuff? do you guys think that toyota is nicer than mazda? I don't plan on getting one, I love my P5, but I have been looking at the car a lot lately, it seems like a nice car for the money. i also like the toyota tacoma x-runner...that would be a nice truck for me.

 

[adc0642]

Car and Driver has a real good review or two of the GTS. It's supposed to be a sports car, the P5 is a 4-door econo-wagon (sorry but it's true) that happens to be quite sporty, so comparison isn't very valid. Already mentioned, but I don't like the super-narrow powerband either, not very useful. We bash Honduhs all the time, but they do get their powerband right. My friends Intgra type r is pretty impressive, with something like 3000rpm worth of power to play with. Like the S2000, slow off the line, but once you hit 6000rpm everyone looks around wondering where all the noise is coming from.

Did the MSP's come with factory limited slip diff's? makes a huge difference in the friend's car, you can really feel it working hard. I'd theink the msp would need it even more with all that yummy low-end (relatively) torque.

 

[Replica]

Oh yeah totally, but I meant the lack of low end. And that's, what, a b16C? I dont know the letters real well, but that's not exactly standard equipment on most cars

A B16a is in a ton of hondas.

99-00 Civic SI
88-91 CRX Si in everywhere but the US
93-97 Del Sol Vtec

 

[daKiNeP5]

Car and Driver has a real good review or two of the GTS. It's supposed to be a sports car, the P5 is a 4-door econo-wagon (sorry but it's true) that happens to be quite sporty, so comparison isn't very valid. Already mentioned, but I don't like the super-narrow powerband either, not very useful. We bash Honduhs all the time, but they do get their powerband right. My friends Intgra type r is pretty impressive, with something like 3000rpm worth of power to play with. Like the S2000, slow off the line, but once you hit 6000rpm everyone looks around wondering where all the noise is coming from.

Did the MSP's come with factory limited slip diff's? makes a huge difference in the friend's car, you can really feel it working hard. I'd theink the msp would need it even more with all that yummy low-end (relatively) torque.

The MSP has a factory installed LSD.

I'm quite sad that Toyota is stopping the production of the Celica and MR2 after 2005. Now what is going to be their sports car? The Corolla and Matrix XRS?

 

[torque222]

The MSP has a factory installed LSD.

I'm quite sad that Toyota is stopping the production of the Celica and MR2 after 2005. Now what is going to be their sports car? The Corolla and Matrix XRS?

corolla s model....mad power.. lmao, they will come out with some off the wall crazy s*** like a 250 hp supercharged corolla but we will have to wait and see

 

[daKiNeP5]

Nah theres the new Corolla XRS with the celica gts motor inside but I think it has 10 less hp or something. Those would definitely eat up Protege's in a straight race.

 

[FunkyBuddha]

Ya..170bhp XRS models. I'm not sure if they're out yet or not. I haven't seen one on the roads here yet