Care to predict new features lineup for 2018+ CX-5?

[MA2LA]

It will be interesting to see what they do. If they do bring the 2.5 turbo down to the cx5 it would be a hard decision between the diesel and that. I love my cx-5 but sometimes I just miss the power my cx7 had and he'll everything else I drive has at least 100hp over the Mazda witch at times is noticable. But it's still fast enough and handles good enough to reach speeds on back roads that have even had me thinking ya that was alittle much and I'm a former scca racer.

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[Xeler8ing]

It will be interesting to see what they do. If they do bring the 2.5 turbo down to the cx5 it would be a hard decision between the diesel and that. I love my cx-5 but sometimes I just miss the power my cx7 had and he'll everything else I drive has at least 100hp over the Mazda witch at times is noticable. But it's still fast enough and handles good enough to reach speeds on back roads that have even had me thinking ya that was alittle much and I'm a former scca racer.

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Interesting thing is torque of both 2.2L turbo diesel and 2.5L turbo is identical at 420NM @2000rpm. Power figures is what separates them - 129KW for 2.2L turbo diesel and 170KW for 2.5L turbo (here in Australia)

Maybe torque figures is a reason why Mazda is reluctant to introduce 2.5L turbo engine?

 

[bigtex]

Interesting thing is torque of both 2.2L turbo diesel and 2.5L turbo is identical at 420NM @2000rpm. Power figures is what separates them - 129KW for 2.2L turbo diesel and 170KW for 2.5L turbo (here in Australia)

Maybe torque figures is a reason why Mazda is reluctant to introduce 2.5L turbo engine?

That can't be right. The diesel should have much more torque. I just did a quick search and it showed the diesel with 310 foot/pound and the 2.5 gas engine at 185 foot/pound. Not sure of the RPM those were measured at. But I've owned 2 VW diesels, and the torque, especially at low RPM, was always high.
If the diesel does come here, it will be worth waiting for. 2.5T would be even better in my opinion.

 

[Xeler8ing]

That can't be right. The diesel should have much more torque. I just did a quick search and it showed the diesel with 310 foot/pound and the 2.5 gas engine at 185 foot/pound. Not sure of the RPM those were measured at. But I've owned 2 VW diesels, and the torque, especially at low RPM, was always high.
If the diesel does come here, it will be worth waiting for. 2.5T would be even better in my opinion.

310foot/pound is 420NM for 2.2L Diesel. Here in Australia, we've had the diesel since original CX-5 and produces that torque at 2000rpm. When USA gets the diesel, should be the same figures.

Just checked USA CX9 brochure and same 310foot/pound (420NM) at 2000rpm.

Hence unless they alter torque figures of 2.5L turbo, maybe it's the reason they aren't adding it to the CX-5. Remember CX-9 has no diesel option anywhere because its torque delivery of 2.5L turbo mimics their diesel engine.

 

[bigtex]

Sorry, didn't notice you were comparing 2.5 turbo to the diesel, that makes more sense. Thought you were comparing to the normal 2.5 we already have.
I would rather have the 2.5 turbo, but the diesel would be so nice as an interstate cruiser that would have good economy and long ranges between fill-ups.

 

[Xeler8ing]

I would have the 2.5L turbo over any of the existing motors but is needs to be fuel efficient, atleast on par with current 2.5L.

 

[xtrailman]

That would be difficult.
I would be happy if it returned 30mpg uk, as I only get around 36 mpg with the diesel as it is.

I would have the 2.5L turbo over any of the existing motors but is needs to be fuel efficient, atleast on par with current 2.5L.

 

[Xeler8ing]

That would be difficult.
I would be happy if it returned 30mpg uk, as I only get around 36 mpg with the diesel as it is.

Well in the CX-9, city is 11.4 l/100km, freeway is 7.3 and combined is 8.8.

The CX-5 weighs less so 2.5l turbo should in theory be close to current 2.5l figures of 9.5 in the city, 6.4 freeway and 7.5 combined

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[santa]

Several Danish car magazines says there will be an updated 2.5 petrol with cylinder deactivation, coming this fall.
How the specs are, I have no idea and I haven't been able to find anything on it except the car magazines articles. But they where all at the same test drive in Italy, so I'm thinking there must have been some official statement from Mazda during this test.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Several Danish car magazines says there will be an updated 2.5 petrol with cylinder deactivation, coming this fall.
How the specs are, I have no idea and I haven't been able to find anything on it except the car magazines articles. But they where all at the same test drive in Italy, so I'm thinking there must have been some official statement from Mazda during this test.

Are you able to post links to these articles please?

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[santa]

Are you able to post links to these articles please?

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Yep, no problem....beware it's in Danish ;-)

http://bilmagasinet.dk/biltest/foerste-tur-ny-mazda-cx-5-er-klar-til-at-udfordre-konkurrenterne
http://www.fdm.dk/biler/test-teknik/biler-paa-vej/mazda-cx-5-suv-let-paa-taa

 

[Xeler8ing]

Yep, no problem....beware it's in Danish ;-)

http://bilmagasinet.dk/biltest/foerste-tur-ny-mazda-cx-5-er-klar-til-at-udfordre-konkurrenterne
http://www.fdm.dk/biler/test-teknik/biler-paa-vej/mazda-cx-5-suv-let-paa-taa

Thank you. Used Google translate [emoji3] they do mention new engins​ coming. Wonder what they know that no one else does

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[santa]

Thank you. Used Google translate [emoji3] they do mention new engins​ coming. Wonder what they know that no one else does

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I have no idea, but they must have been told something since they both appear to have been at the same test drive in Italy.

 

[Xeler8ing]

I have no idea, but they must have been told something since they both appear to have been at the same test drive in Italy.

Let's see if it actually pans out. Glad I am holding off my purchase till later this year/early next year. Hopefully the new engine (s) materialise

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[CX-5um]

Several Danish car magazines says there will be an updated 2.5 petrol with cylinder deactivation, coming this fall.
How the specs are, I have no idea and I haven't been able to find anything on it except the car magazines articles. But they where all at the same test drive in Italy, so I'm thinking there must have been some official statement from Mazda during this test.

Cylinder deactivation....I've not heard of any in a 4-cylinder car....usually for 6+ cylinders right? I mean driving off of 2 cylinders on a car this size

 

[santa]

Cylinder deactivation....I've not heard of any in a 4-cylinder car....usually for 6+ cylinders right? I mean driving off of 2 cylinders on a car this size

VW uses it on the 1.4 TSI and Ford are planning on introducing it on the 3 cylinder 1.0 ecoboost engine in 2018.
So not totally unheard of ☺

 

[Xeler8ing]

Cylinder deactivation....I've not heard of any in a 4-cylinder car....usually for 6+ cylinders right? I mean driving off of 2 cylinders on a car this size

Can be done but lets also hope they up the power and torque numbers

 

[mazdafollower]

Let's say I'm reasonably happy with the 2017 CX-5 and don't care much about the new features offered in future models (predicted here and elsewhere), when do they normally release the crash test safety ratings for 2017 MY? Is it normal that insurance agents did not perform such tests prior to 17 production? Or are they just not making those videos public yet?

 

[banjos-n-beer]

Cylinder deactivation....I've not heard of any in a 4-cylinder car....usually for 6+ cylinders right? I mean driving off of 2 cylinders on a car this size

Back in High School my buddy would disconnect the plug wires on his Ford Tempo just for s**** and giggles. Driving around on 3 cylinders was doable, but just 2 was kinda dangerous... but entertaining for a laugh.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Let's say I'm reasonably happy with the 2017 CX-5 and don't care much about the new features offered in future models (predicted here and elsewhere), when do they normally release the crash test safety ratings for 2017 MY? Is it normal that insurance agents did not perform such tests prior to 17 production? Or are they just not making those videos public yet?

Give it a while, say a few months.