Cable modem and wireless router

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I am getting cable internet access next week and I need some help on what hardware I need.

I have 3 computer/laptops at my house so I need all to have access.

I figure I need a cable modem connected to a wireless router then wireless cars in each laptop and PC.

What have I missed and does anyone have suggestions?

My cable line comes into the 1st floor and the most important computer, my primary pc, is on the 4th floor so I need signal to go wireless form the basement to the 3rd floor.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
I am getting cable internet access next week and I need some help on what hardware I need.

I have 3 computer/laptops at my house so I need all to have access.

I figure I need a cable modem connected to a wireless router then wireless cars in each laptop and PC.

What have I missed and does anyone have suggestions?

My cable line comes into the 1st floor and the most important computer, my primary pc, is on the 4th floor so I need signal to go wireless form the basement to the 3rd floor.

i have that....hmmm...i have the Linkys system, good luck with it reaching your 4th floor...although, what is your house made of...cuz mine reaches my room from the 1st to 3rd floor, but wont reach some other 3rd room floors

But my house has like thick ass walls i think cuz its brick and was built in like 1926 or something

as far as i know, you have everything you need....
 
It would be better if you could get the cable upto the
pc and have it connected wired.

Otherwise I would suggest staying FAR away from the Dlink stuff.

I also suggest getting just the plain jane 802.11b stuff.
The G stuff is okay too, but nobody needs the extra bandwidth
unless they are transfering a lot of data between computers
at home. The G stuff is still pricey where you can get great
deals on the 802.11b stuff.

I personally like the Netgear products. Linksys is good too.
The one neat thing with the linksys is that it does have to
booster add-on you can get for it.

there are also the network over power lines too. That's not
as fast but then you aren't getting more than 1Mbps from
your cable either.
 
I have a 4 story town house built in 1986. The lowest level is garage.
 
so what hardware peices do I need. I am very unknowledgable here. For the PC is it an extranal wireless recieve then goes to my network card?
 
For the PC you can either get a PCI card (internal), a USB adapter (external), or an external adapter that connects to your existing network card. For the laptops you would want a PCMCIA card (I HIGHLY suggest an Orinoco) or a USB adapter.

Seriously, spend the money for the Orinoco cards, since you will get MUCH better range.

http://www.practicallynetworked.com is the king for info, product reviews, etc. That's a good place to start.
 
I don't have a wireless router, but I have a Linksys Wireless Access Point. You definitely need to think about security. I have found countless open wireless networks that were easily able to be used for free access locally. You need to enable Wireless Encryption Protocol, and MAC address filetering. That way your data is encrypted (even though WEP is still kinda inherantly weak), and only the wireless cards with the MAC addresses you specify can use your router. Just use a Wireless Access point. Simpler and cheaper to set up. Just use a switch or hub to tie it in to the rest of your network.
 
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I would recomment this....I have this setup (very similar, except I have a Wireless Access Point instead of a router). Anyway, go with this system:

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get it at: Computers4Sure

Then you just need one more PC Card (if u have 2 laptops) or 2 USB Wireless Adapters.

Those products are here:

Wireless PCMCIA Card

and here:

USB Wireless Adapter


-or if you prefer internal to USB:

Netgear PCI Card


I recommend Netgear b/c they have the most stable hardware that supports 802.11G which is what I think you may need to reach a 4th floor system. 802.11G is much faster and powerful than 802.11b systems, but the benefit is that all the netgear hardware is backwards compatible with 802.11b systems. I live on the 3rd floor of an apartment building and I can sit at my pool about 100yrds+ away and get GREAT signal!!

my 2 cents

zcast
 
if you have the money got with the 108Mbit G band routers, they are hella fast and outperform the 54G by 5x

so this is what you need if yuo want to go wireless

1 108G router
3 network cards
1 ethernet cable to go to cable modem
 
just make sure that you haev some sort of security turned on your router

i recommend that you have no encryption, no keys or any other BS turned on that will take up bandwidth (the higher the encryption the slower it will go IE 64bit - 128bit) use MAC filter so ONLY the 3 comptuers in your house can use the wireless router or ppl will do what i do :) if you use mac filter you will need to enter the mac addresses manuely and if you want a friend that has a wifi card to connect you will hav to enter his as well

sometimes if im really boerd i will drive around with my pocket pc and try and hack into pplz home networks LOL, wifi cards for pocket pc's are cheap, they cost like 40 bux off ebay
 
This would only be needed if you were gonna be transfering lots of data back and forth on your LAN. When you start getting those types of speed, then your broadband connection becomes your bottleneck. :D
 
I have no home network and I don't really need one anlthouhg it may be helpful at times.
Be it a wireless router or access point I have no clue where they differ. I would assume a wireless access point is for one computer. So I would need 3 of them not just one?

Also I have no network cables pulled nor can I pull any so it has to all be wireless to the basement.
 
ok....since u want ALL computers in your house to be able to surf the net at the same time, you basically HAVE to create a home network. It's like the extra "benefit" that sharing an internet connection gets you when multiple computers are in-line.

Ok...a WAP (wireless access point) differs from a wireless router in several ways.

1st off, what a router does is that it has an INPUT port (Cable modem) and offers multiple output ports (usually 4 for consumers). A WIRELESS router bumps that up a notch and offers 4 output ports AND sends the data out wirelessly. Basically what that router is doing is allowing all computers connected to it (which can be over 1000 if need be with additional equipment) to share 1 outgoing connection (your cable high speed internet) The router actually "levels out" the sharing....so if you want to download music and your kid upstairs wants to download porn, your kid won't HOG all the bandwidth, the router evens it out so you're not crawling online while your kid is flying! A Router also offers protection in the form of a Firewall. (someone else can cover this one!) A wireless router does all this and offers encyption protection so only you and the computers in your house can access your High Speed Internet wirelessly.

...so thats what a router does...

a WAP basically takes an already WIRED system, and adds wireless capabilities. I have a Wired router...so I have my Cablemodem going INTO the router and I have 4-ouputs on the back of the router feeding 4 different things (1 computer, 1 XBOX, 1 ReplayTV, and one WAP. All the WAP does is tranmit the data back and forth from my laptop and PDA through the one port it is plugged into on the WIRED router. That is it's only function. Mine (Netgear) offers security encryption as well, but its not a Firewall...the router is the firewall.

Note: A single WAP can have 100's of simultaneous wireless connections to it. So no need to buy more than 1!

The only real reason to use a WAP over a wireless router, is if you already have a home network setup and you are already using a router.

All this said (i hope you are following me here) Everything you connect to your router can communicate with each other. So not only do they talk to your Cable modem, they CAN talk to each other....for example. You (on the 4th floor) download a file, but you want to transfer it to your laptop so you can bring it to work and show your buds......EASY, just drag and drop the file to the computer located in the My Network folder, and you're good to go. (Assuming you set up each computer to communicate with each other....its easy, but i wont make this already long post, longer by telling you how to do it).


So that being said, here is what i think you need.

Assuming you plan on going Wireless and not running cables up through your house:

You have : 2 Desktops and 1 Laptop (example, not sure what u have)

you need
- 1 wireless router
- 1 Cat 5 Cable to connect Router to Cable Modem (usually supplied with Cable Modem)
- 1 PCMCIA wireless network card (for Laptop)
- 2 USB or PCI wireless network adapter (for desktops)


This being said...you STILL have 4 open ports on the back of your router.....so you could save some $$$ and run one desktop directly into the router if it isn't too far away or too much of a pain.

Well i hope that helps.....if u need more help, just PM me or catch me on IM

zcast
 
Thanks Z.
I will have to go shopping and post what I find for comments.

Mark since I don't have one computer or a home network in wired form I don't believe the wireless cable modem will help at all. I need a totaly wireless network as no laptop(2) or PC(1) is even on the same floor. Also running wires is not possible as my garage has a totaly finished ceiling I am not willing to rip holes in.
 
to find the range of your hardware, take the manufacturer's specs and divide them by a factor of 10. seriously I wouldnt want to be stuck on a connection with less than 60% signal strength just because of loss of thoroughput, so I advise you get any stationary computers that aren't really close to the AP wired up however that would be possible.
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
Thanks Z.
I will have to go shopping and post what I find for comments.

Mark since I don't have one computer or a home network in wired form I don't believe the wireless cable modem will help at all. I need a totaly wireless network as no laptop(2) or PC(1) is even on the same floor. Also running wires is not possible as my garage has a totaly finished ceiling I am not willing to rip holes in.

This wireless modem will work with more than one computer. That's the whole point. And it is totally wireless.
 
Modem:
http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductID=1307784&CatID=313&IID=856

Router:
http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?ProductID=1767490&CatID=867&IID=855

PC card:
I am a bit confused here. Most are about the same price except the cisco systmes one which is twice the price. What is the reason for that and is it worth it?
http://www.computers4sure.com/category.asp?catId=967
I was thinking of getting the net gear to keep things consistant.

Laptop cards:
I am confused here too.
http://www.computers4sure.com/category.asp?catId=971
Obviously I need a very good distance for access but the one that actualy list distance is one of the cheaper ones. Again I was thinking netgear to stay consistant.
 
I just got a new Gateway 500 wireless laptop and I love it I am out by the pool right now and it works great.
 
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