BUYER'S GUIDE: SRT-4 VS MSP.

[t3ase]

Guys.. On topic.

 

[spacemonkey]

I think it looks hot front the front. Then the Wheel gap and spoiler put me back to reality. But I must say it was a powerful car.

 

[t3ase]

I've been *VERY* close to trading my MSP in for a SRT-4 on many occasions. It's a nice car. I'm merging this with the buyer's guide sticky.

 

[yashooa]

yashooa you need to calm the **** down...the guy probably didn't even know that there was a search button. s***...flaming fucktards

Ah who's pussy is bruised? Your's is!
That was a really weak put down next time put more effort into it.

 

[t3ase]

dude u should go post that on a srt board for the all the neon thugs. I thought the car looked dumb.... well lets be honest its a ******* neon with a big grill... it looks retarded. i watched the video for the launch of the srt-4 on the dodge website... it is freakin' pitiful. they have guys spray painted in the background and this dude in a shirt and tie trying to make the neon sound cool for the "hip" generation.

heres the link, mad funny
click on the multimedia pic at the bottom
then click on multimedia on the flash screen that pops up
the movie is labeled, well its labeled "movie"... created eh?
its all built up like a awesome car like a 350z is going to amaze the crowd.. but its a neon..... wow..... with the dumb grill and spoiler
http://www.dodge.com/srt-4/photos.html?context=srt-4-index&type=left

neons are ******* slow, and nothing pisses me off most then a decked out neon with altezza's with a kid who thinks he looks cool driving the same thing my grandma owns. There are a bunch at my college and in the norwich area of CT. They all suck!

(fu) to the Dodge SRT-4, a neon with a stupid grill, and those who drive them for tuning... my grandma is still cool, though

later
ry

Not to be an ass but do you know what you're talking about?

 

[mazdaowner123]

I think it looks hot front the front. Then the Wheel gap and spoiler put me back to reality. But I must say it was a powerful car.

I agree 100% with this! I think the front looks really badass, but the rear and wheel gap aren't so great. It is extremely fast though. If you're doing lots of drag/street racing I'd say get the SRT-4. If you drive for the love of driving, and for the feeling of the turns, get the MSP. Although, like that one guy said, if you have to ask get the SRT-4. The MSP is a unique car and I think if it's right for you you'll know it.

~brian

 

[ND4MSP]

I didn't care for the rear end either until I saw and heard the exhaust. Then it def scored some points with me.

 

[batmang]

it hauls ass, but it will suckass and die in 2 years.

 

[t3ase]

it hauls ass, but it will suckass and die in 2 years.

Lets see... I've been through two clutches, one transmission, four radio headunits, two coolant leak fixes, three axles, three broken intercooler/bpv pipes all in around 11months.

...Would you like to try that one one more time? The SRT is a good car. It's more of a "built for turbo" car than the MSP, face it.

 

[Micah]

(www.modernracer.com)
SRT-4

Top speed : 153 mph
0-60 mph : 5.6 sec.
0- mile : 14.2 sec @ 102.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 120 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.85 g
Curb Weight : 2970 lbs
MSP

Top speed : 130 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.9 sec.
0- mile : 15.4 sec @ 91.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.89 g
Curb Weight : 2844 lbs


Check out the braking distance? The SRT-4 is half a second faster in the quarter mile. I don't remember who was trying to downplay that, but 1/2 seconds are nothing to be taken lightly at the track. The SRT-4 also weighs more yet has a shorter stopping distance.... what is that all about.

Not to mention the Fuel Economy - the SRT-4 gets 29mpg City and 36mpg Highway.

The fact is that aside from looks, the SRT-4 is a much more capable car. The only area the MSP is going to take the gold is in handling. Bear in mind that the SRT-4 is priced roughly 2k below the MSP - arguably this could be spent on suspension upgrades. As far as the SRT-4 looking like a goddamned skittle - yeah, it sure does. But I don't know many people that haven't heard about an SRT-4 anymore.

Long story short, Mazda made the MSP first. The MSP is a direct competitor to the SRT-4. If you were releasing a car, wouldn't you have designed something better than the competition? It's all about the waiting game. Wait until the Cobalt SS and ION Redline are released, chances are they will be the latest and greatest. About six months after that - something else will come along.

lather - rinse - repeat.

That's why I'm paying off my car and saving up 30-35k for a new car. It's gonna take me a solid year to save that much, and that's after the six months it's taking me to pay off my car. STI, Crossfire, Touareg, is300 are a few of the cars I am looking at.

 

[yashooa]

Lets see... I've been through two clutches, one transmission, four radio headunits, two coolant leak fixes, three axles, three broken intercooler/bpv pipes all in around 11months.

...Would you like to try that one one more time? The SRT is a good car. It's more of a "built for turbo" car than the MSP, face it.

Say Junior (you like that kinda talk don't you?) mine has been fine at 12PSI for 30k miles. Of course the exhaust did fall in half (laugh) But that was the only problem thus far, well it is running 14PSI now after Mazda put new hoses on the turbo. I suppose I will have to take it back in eventually. I still hate the Neon for it's "fugly" factor.

 

[Micah]

dude u should go post that on a srt board for the all the neon thugs. I thought the car looked dumb.... well lets be honest its a ******* neon with a big grill... it looks retarded. i watched the video for the launch of the srt-4 on the dodge website... it is freakin' pitiful. they have guys spray painted in the background and this dude in a shirt and tie trying to make the neon sound cool for the "hip" generation.

heres the link, mad funny
click on the multimedia pic at the bottom
then click on multimedia on the flash screen that pops up
the movie is labeled, well its labeled "movie"... created eh?
its all built up like a awesome car like a 350z is going to amaze the crowd.. but its a neon..... wow..... with the dumb grill and spoiler
http://www.dodge.com/srt-4/photos.html?context=srt-4-index&type=left

neons are ******* slow, and nothing pisses me off most then a decked out neon with altezza's with a kid who thinks he looks cool driving the same thing my grandma owns. There are a bunch at my college and in the norwich area of CT. They all suck!

(fu) to the Dodge SRT-4, a neon with a stupid grill, and those who drive them for tuning... my grandma is still cool, though

later
ry

Wow, I can't even begin to pick a starting point to identify your ignorance.

You're right about one thing though - Your grandma is very kewl, if you could aspire to be even a little more like her it would only be an improvement.

Before you start poking fun at the SRT-4's marketing campaign why don't you take a look at Mazda. "Zoom Zoom Zoom"??? Go rent "Only the Strong" at blockbuster and you can enjoy the recycled song again.

Still don't agree? Take a look at the history of MOPAR performance vs. Mazdaspeed.

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE MSP FOR WHAT IT IS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAY IT'S BETTER THAN SOMETHING ELSE. I hold a higher respect for someone who can boast of their own merits as opposed to someone who feels the only way to prove their own merit is to try to put down the merits of another.

I'm done for now.

 

[yashooa]

(www.modernracer.com)
SRT-4

Top speed : 153 mph
0-60 mph : 5.6 sec.
0- mile : 14.2 sec @ 102.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 120 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.85 g
Curb Weight : 2970 lbs
MSP

Top speed : 130 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.9 sec.
0- mile : 15.4 sec @ 91.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.89 g
Curb Weight : 2844 lbs

All this data varies from Mag race to Mag race. I have seen the MSP do 123' stops from 60 in one Magazine without ABS so go figure. For 95% of the time this stuff will be a completely mute point. How the car looks and feels wil be more important to the vast majority of drivers who just want a nice car to do their "normal" driving in. Style and price play a huge role in a car purcahse not just RAW numbers. Look at the PR-5 people love those things and they are not exactly speed demons and yet they are still very nice little cars. Heck the MSP can be had for under 16 grand if one can still be found at the right dealer.

 

[t3ase]

Wow, I can't even begin to pick a starting point to identify your ignorance.

You're right about one thing though - Your grandma is very kewl, if you could aspire to be even a little more like her it would only be an improvement.

Before you start poking fun at the SRT-4's marketing campaign why don't you take a look at Mazda. "Zoom Zoom Zoom"??? Go rent "Only the Strong" at blockbuster and you can enjoy the recycled song again.

Still don't agree? Take a look at the history of MOPAR performance vs. Mazdaspeed.

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE MSP FOR WHAT IT IS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SAY IT'S BETTER THAN SOMETHING ELSE. I hold a higher respect for someone who can boast of their own merits as opposed to someone who feels the only way to prove their own merit is to try to put down the merits of another.

I'm done for now.

Wow. I'm agreeing with Micah.......





......and he's posted pics of his penii.







Wow.

 

[Micah]

Url Removed Due To Content.

Wow. I'm agreeing with Micah.......

......and he's posted pics of his penii.

Wow.

Yep, and I just might do it again! Let's see if people can follow directions this time. Do not click on the link I am about to post unless you would like to see it. I'm even putting it dead center in the middle of these exclaimation points so not one person can say they accidentally clicked.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You've been warned.

 

[Spicy1390]

The SRT 4 Neon is a nice car. So is the Mazdasped, and the Evo, and the STi and all of that crap... Is anybody else just getting sick of this crap... Buy what you think is the best looking car you can afford, then put money into it to make it what you want. I have seen 9 secnd hatchbacks.. I mean come on. Who cares what it is stock, cause if your on any boards you are not prob stock??? make it your proj, and drop the sh$$. Just may thoughts of to many years listening to this crap.....

 

[Pkay]

lets not forget the MSP numbers are PRE FLASH


repeating

MSP NUMBERS ARE PRE ******* FLASH


post flash those numbers change dramaticly

 

[bustertwo]

Wow this thread lives!!!!

 

[Petey Turbo]

Wow, I can't even begin to pick a starting point to identify your ignorance.

You're right about one thing though - Your grandma is very kewl, if you could aspire to be even a little more like her it would only be an improvement.

Before you start poking fun at the SRT-4's marketing campaign why don't you take a look at Mazda. "Zoom Zoom Zoom"??? Go rent "Only the Strong" at blockbuster and you can enjoy the recycled song again.

Still don't agree? Take a look at the history of MOPAR performance vs. Mazdaspeed.

I DIDN'T KNOW SLOWPAR WON THE 24 HRS. OF LEMANS!!

 

[Bremmer]

haha this thread is funny, I have nothing against the car except that it's faster than mine. BUT the dealership that I work at was struggling to get rid of a 2004 srt and somehow it got a bent rim from just driving it around in the parking lot. They finally sold it and won't order anymore cause they don't sell in this area very well. I personally think they are ugly.