built 3071r big turbo build up
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mrlilguy157
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- 07 mazdaspeed 3
i know i know. i think i'm gonna have to hold off on the coils.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
happy to help you on this build jon. subbing for progress.
mrlilguy157
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- 07 mazdaspeed 3
falken all-season street tires, in my sig. they're actually pretty sticky in the warm months.
they up the boost but don't eliminate is. if you turn up the BC to 18psi in 4th or 5th, you'll be near 14psi in 1st and 2nd.
thank you thank you thank you. the highway motor break in is going to be a road trip to chicago, no joke.
thanks Ron. you've been a good contributor to this build. btw we need to talk about some things. i'll call you when i have a free moment.
mrlilguy157
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- 07 mazdaspeed 3
update.
i'm back in dallas and with mi carro! Pump shipments are on old due to no parts on hand (huge order shipping to me this next week) and because I need to focus on my car for a few straight days.
the new motor has been completely disassembled and is ready to head over to the engine builder's place in Richardson. I pulled everything out of the block, including oil squirters, so he could hone the motor. I also went ahead and threw in the F2 motorsport balance shaft delete kit, and the baffle in the oil pan. John Day is the man.
Good news: I got my header wrap, ties, and high temp paint in from DEI today. I wrapped the manifold and sprayed it black. Looks great.
I also got bored and cleaned the valve cover thoroughly, and then sprayed it black too. Its nice to be different. I'll also spray my ETS TMIC shroud black tomorrow, and probably trim down the back side.
Bad news: I still haven't gotten my new rod bearings, head gasket, and turbo gaskets. I may buy a head gasket tomorrow at the dealership, right next door to John Day's shop. John Day recommended me to use the existing rod bearings from the motor, no need for new ones. I have them on the way, but I want to get the motor back in the car as soon as possible.
I also haven't received my ARP Main Studs which I had overnighted, ordered, and paid for this past wednesday. I'm going to put the block together with the stock bolts, and then when the studs come in I'm going to swap them out from beneath the motor after its mounted to the trans and in the car.
Still awaiting my exhaust cutout, but that is not a necessity by any means.
I'll have some pictures tomorrow when I get the pistons rods and block all back and assembled. Unfortunately it may sit like that for a few days depending how I feel tomorrow.
i'm back in dallas and with mi carro! Pump shipments are on old due to no parts on hand (huge order shipping to me this next week) and because I need to focus on my car for a few straight days.
the new motor has been completely disassembled and is ready to head over to the engine builder's place in Richardson. I pulled everything out of the block, including oil squirters, so he could hone the motor. I also went ahead and threw in the F2 motorsport balance shaft delete kit, and the baffle in the oil pan. John Day is the man.
Good news: I got my header wrap, ties, and high temp paint in from DEI today. I wrapped the manifold and sprayed it black. Looks great.
I also got bored and cleaned the valve cover thoroughly, and then sprayed it black too. Its nice to be different. I'll also spray my ETS TMIC shroud black tomorrow, and probably trim down the back side.
Bad news: I still haven't gotten my new rod bearings, head gasket, and turbo gaskets. I may buy a head gasket tomorrow at the dealership, right next door to John Day's shop. John Day recommended me to use the existing rod bearings from the motor, no need for new ones. I have them on the way, but I want to get the motor back in the car as soon as possible.
I also haven't received my ARP Main Studs which I had overnighted, ordered, and paid for this past wednesday. I'm going to put the block together with the stock bolts, and then when the studs come in I'm going to swap them out from beneath the motor after its mounted to the trans and in the car.
Still awaiting my exhaust cutout, but that is not a necessity by any means.
I'll have some pictures tomorrow when I get the pistons rods and block all back and assembled. Unfortunately it may sit like that for a few days depending how I feel tomorrow.
mrlilguy157
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- 07 mazdaspeed 3
you should wait for all parts and do it everything at the same time.....changine and s*** can be pain in the ass....cant wait to see wome numbers(rockon)
trufanatic
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- 2008 Red MS3
Jon, i really like you but i have to share my thoughts. You can build a motor thats able to hold 600whp+ with that rod and piston combo. The clutch is just too sweet, the manifold with the GT30.....just sexy. BUT! if you are shooting for any real kind of horse power your going to need, literally a standalone fuel system with a cell or standalone computer maybe a combination...no damn piggyback! all that money and the time invested will be just an absolute waste...didnt we all learn something from chriss with the ms6? he spent well over 15k on his build but ended having to put his car up for sale for what its worth in the books...seriously if i were you..granted you already wasted the money..i would have sourced a crashed ms3/6 or cx7 and just got a motor from it and you would have been right back to where you were.
there is a reason why none of the major vendors that makes parts for our competitors dont make parts for us.
But i would love for you to prove me wrong
there is a reason why none of the major vendors that makes parts for our competitors dont make parts for us.
But i would love for you to prove me wrong
2.0t03speed
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if he wants to make all the power he can yes hes going to need to a stand alone. but there is no reason why he cant use a piggy back. im using a mpi with my built motor and bigger turbo and i will break 300 no problem. his car will be fine with a piggy back...
trufanatic
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300hp is not alot of power. there is a general rule...a piggy back is just that, something that interecepts and alters signals. There is no TRUE standalone for the MS3. point im making is the ms3 should be more than capable to make 400whp with a good tuning solution...which we dont have and all that money he spent........well you kno the rest.
2.0t03speed
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i wasnt saying thats all i was going for lol i was just using it as a example of making power with a piggy back. i guess he will be the real tester to see how the transmission in the ms3's will hold up.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
no offense to that gentleman with the 6, but tuning was not even the first or worst of his problems as to why that car would not run right.
trufanatic
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- 2008 Red MS3
he ran into a slew of problems but he could never tune it. all these companys boast a tuning solution but when dataloged its like changes hardly even took. our damn ecu is smarter than our vendors parts are.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
the problems he had could have been fixed - and were not fixed or properly addressed in that thread - which prevented the possibility of mild tuning even taking place. i agree a standalone will ultimately be required but i'll say it again - his ecu, his tune, his performance parts were not the cause of even one of his central problems.
