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- 2003.5 Laser Blue MSP
Yeah a longer 5th would be nice. Every time I take a longer drive I always wish 5th was a little longer.
Broken 3rd gear x 3
- Thread starter Kooldino
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Yeah a longer 5th would be nice. Every time I take a longer drive I always wish 5th was a little longer.
shane02pro5
25ish_psi
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- New Caney TX
Anything more on getting a group buy going? I'm stuck waiting to get my taxes done like most others with kids until Feb 11th. I'm leaning toward 1-4 at the mentioned ratio that they have in stock! 6-8 weeks isn't going to cut it for me so I need something off the shelf!
I think the power rating was mentioned around 500whp!
I think the power rating was mentioned around 500whp!
If you can't wait you should just go ahead and order the regular set and get the January Discount.
I really would like to see a Bulk Buy happen but no one has stepped up yet to start it. I suppose I could do it buy being a newbie on this board I figured youd rather have someone you know, plus I'm not familiar with your BB rules/proceedurs. (dunno)
A bulk buy will probably take a good 3-4 months since we would need to allow some time for everyone to get the money and PAR to actually make and ship the parts.
I really would like to see a Bulk Buy happen but no one has stepped up yet to start it. I suppose I could do it buy being a newbie on this board I figured youd rather have someone you know, plus I'm not familiar with your BB rules/proceedurs. (dunno)
A bulk buy will probably take a good 3-4 months since we would need to allow some time for everyone to get the money and PAR to actually make and ship the parts.
shane02pro5
25ish_psi
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- New Caney TX
My big problem is I have to finish paying off my motor before it can ship to me and income tax is on hold until Feb 11!
Someone might want to call TriPoint or Tindol and see if they used the PAR gearsets. I know Tripoint used EMCO and still destroyed transmissions, they may have tried PAR aswell before switching to the Xtrac box. Just a thought before everyone drops coin on parts that may not be the "end all" solution.
Well according to this thread:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123655717&highlight=PAR
The sold them and didn't break them !!!
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- MSP 1145
SPEEDCIRCUIT- set up the group buy.
shane02pro5
25ish_psi
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- New Caney TX
$1000 a set, man that would be real nice!!! But 1st gear is the only one that had a good ratio on the sets they were using and it was over a year ago!
Hey i am a memeber of probe talk and as Krish has stated few of them will spend money on quality parts. I am in on the gears but i think some agreement needs to be made on the ratios. The ration calculator you are using does not seem to be correc though, because if you put in stock probe ratios the speeds dont add up to what the car actually hits at 7k. I just dont want to have to shift into fifth gear in the quarter and need something longer for all gears. 40mph would be nice in first gear!
Ah yes, I was thinking those were EMCO gearsets that Jeff had posted up. Still, he never said they won't break. Was this something they told you personally? I don't think they even used the G-series transmission in the 6's for a whole season before switching to the Xtrac. It wouldn't hurt for someone to call and talk to these teams before buying the PAR parts.
The club racing teams I've talked to still have not found a gearset that will last and they are in the 230-270whp range. The PAR set has been around for awhile, so it would surprise me if they don't know about/test it. I don't know why everyone is jumping on these all the sudden....
Problem is not wih the teams, but more along mazdamotorsports lines. They only carried the emco, which are just replacement gears and do not address the gearbox problems...
But yes, someone PM jeff, his input would be welcome.
you are talking about http://www.f-body.org/gears/ right?
It seems pretty accurate to me, using the stock ratio's I get 90mph in 3rd. That seems right to me (although it's been awhile since I've had stock ratio's). I remember when Id run the 1/4 I could hold it in 3rd just past redline and trap about 91mph.
They have slightly smaller tires on the Protege and a 4.11 final so I have been basing the speeds off thier numbers, just so we are all talking about the same thing.
Do you not like that last set of raio's I posted?
1 - 2.8
2 - 1.65
3 - 1.26
4 - 0.962
(yupnope)
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I just saw this from Jeff posted in his sale thread of the PAR gears.
Sounds like we may still have problems if were pushing high HP. (dunno)
TriPoint also used the PARs though, per Jeff's FS thread. I'm not trying to argue with you I just think people are jumping onto the PAR bandwagon without understanding everything. You have more experience than I with these gearboxes, no question.
It seems some people are forgetting your post on the root issues of gear failures. People who expect a helical gear w/ an OEM bearing design to last are leaving themselves open to failure according to your analysis.
I agree with you. Hence why PAR made the changes to the casing as well. The offer cups to insert on the casing to adreess the problem of side thrusts.
If you are using the OEM bearing design, you need to look at straight cut, that will eliminate a lot of the side load.
I'm trying...they're not the fastest with replying to my emails.
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- MSP 1145
yeah man. i know. lol. well.. when you get all pricing and w/e..you know what i want. just holla. i'm saving for that..instead of our previous idea.
