Have liked the bite of more aggressive ft. brake pads on my 08 MS3..Carbotech A's, HPS +, for example but hated the squealing..the Hawks were actually worse than the Carbotechs. Had used these pads with the permatex no squeal blue goo and high grade rotors like DBA's. Carbotechs were pretty quiet but HP+'s still quite loud. Found that putting on a cheap, softer rotor off eBay (there's a Canadian based company with the cheapest prices and Free shipping that ships out of Syracuse, NY) with the Permatex/Hawks gave me a much improved, albeit still slightly squeaking set of ft. brakes that perform great. Wears the rotors fairly quickly to wear limit..one set of pads lasts a bit longer than the thickness limit of these rotors but at $30.00/rotor no problem.