Brake kit

[Chris_Top_Her]

Well I found these brake/brake kits while searching


they don't have a weight listed though (and no caliper)

 

[tpliquid]

just replacement pads/ rotors is what i see

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

just replacement pads/ rotors is what i see

+1 for obvious. it's still a "kit" missing the caliper as I noted, which if someone were to but this would already have

 

[FiveCX-5]

Looks good those rotors ! You can`t get any bigger than 300 ? (especially for 20 inch wheels....)

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

Yea, that's the main thing I as looking for.. aside form expensive sets from Japan, these were the only rotors I found that were not oem style (although same size, cross drilled). The other options would be to put a pair of speed 6 or 3 rotors on and have more caliper options. I don't know enough about brake sizing though to know if/how they would fit, aside from having wheel clearance. Those brakes, as in the case with the skyactive mazda 3 vs the speed3 tend to be lighter as well.

edit I found this info
CX-5
Front Brake Rotor Diameter x Thickness (in) 11.700 x 1.100
Rear Brake Rotor Diameter x Thickness (in) 11.900 x 0.400

 

[SayNoToPistons]

No name manufacturer, no pad material stated, and the fact that they are drilled is even more frightening. Don't see this being an improvement.

I suggest giving a call to RB Performance Brakes. Wide range of proven compounds, rotors, and caliper components (big brake kits as well). Would be nice to have them engineering a set for us, even if they're not BBK upgrades.

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/company.asp

 

[tpliquid]

I am not understanding, are you looking for big brake kit?

The one listed is just pads and rotors as kit.

RB will make a big brake kit only if enough people are interested. But the cost would be probably around 1600+.
I wouldnt put any cross drilled rotors on any car. They crack, and have less surface area. Solid disc would be optimal.

 

[tpliquid]

Looks good those rotors ! You can`t get any bigger than 300 ? (especially for 20 inch wheels....)

20 inch wheels you can run 380mm rotors or bigger like 400mm.

 

[SayNoToPistons]

I am not understanding, are you looking for big brake kit?

The one listed is just pads and rotors as kit.

RB will make a big brake kit only if enough people are interested. But the cost would be probably around 1600+.
I wouldnt put any cross drilled rotors on any car. They crack, and have less surface area. Solid disc would be optimal.

I wouldn't slap a BBK on just the fronts either without upgrading the rears (which is the difficult part). A balanced upgrade in pad compound for front and rear would be suitable for any daily application.

 

[tpliquid]

you also would have to upgrade the MC to drive the calipers. Unless the company specifically designed the piston diameters to use the stock MC.

I agree, go with better pads and higher temp brake fluid if you want better braking.

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

you also would have to upgrade the MC to drive the calipers. Unless the company specifically designed the piston diameters to use the stock MC.

I agree, go with better pads and higher temp brake fluid if you want better braking.

Won't do much for aesthetics, but something to consider when I'll consider when I need to change my pads.

 

[SayNoToPistons]

Drilled rotors won't do much for stopping power either. If anything on the street, it is worse than a factory blank rotor due to decreased friction surface. Those look like the typical cheap drilled aftermarket blank which often comes unbalanced... If you're going to get something drilled, look at reputable brands. The factory tiny 11.9"/11.7" F/R discs of the CX-5 look ridiculous anyways, hence the reason I rather not attract more attention to it. Size matters LOL.

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

btw has anyone ever heard of "R1 concepts" brake company

 

[SayNoToPistons]

No.

 

[apexanimal]

yes, but they're super basic copy-company... not something i would put on as brakes...

the general agreed brake upgrade, without going larger rotors/calipers, is to just get some napa blank rotors, nice pads, and some decent fluid... ss brake lines would be ok but not a big deal...

 

[r1concepts]

yes, but they're super basic copy-company... not something i would put on as brakes...

the general agreed brake upgrade, without going larger rotors/calipers, is to just get some napa blank rotors, nice pads, and some decent fluid... ss brake lines would be ok but not a big deal...

We are surely not a "super basic copy-company..." being in business for 10+ years and only growing we've gone through the waves of this industry. Not only are we recognized in the brake industry, we work closely with companies such as Brembo, Stop-tech and Centric.

 

[apexanimal]

That escalated quickly...

 

[r1concepts]

If you guys have any questions regarding R1 Concepts, feel free to PM me or ask on here and I'll do my best to answer any of your questions. Here's a quick video:

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[SayNoToPistons]

So what does that flashy video show? Just some fancy cinematic of a building and typical CNC manufacturing process. Would you like to tell us a biography/history of the company and its ties "with Brembo and Centric (StopTech their sub-division)" and how the brakes proven "recognized"?

This is the first time I have heard of "r1concepts" and I wouldn't say I'm unfamiliar with the brake game. From what I've read, your rotors are practically Centric economy and premium rotor blanks but drilled/slotted. StopTech's use either Centric's premium or PowerAlloy (different alloy structural formula and directional vanes) blanks...

I'm not saying there's no credibility in your products as they are either mostly rebranded Centric/StopTech products, but I wouldn't go as far as saying r1concepts is "recognized in the brake industry."

 

[r1concepts]

I apologize if I offended anyone on this thread. That was not my intention to do so. Yes, that video is a bit flashy but it also shows that we do our own machining as well, which we are proud of. We have been in business for 10 years and still growing every day.

We do our own machining here in house in La Habra, CA. We are in complete control of the entire machining process. Not most companies can honestly say that. You know you’re getting a quality rotor since each rotor goes through a quality control process. Whereas the other companies have it machined overseas and shipped back to them in the states. We offer a 1 year warranty on warping and cracking for my E-line series rotors and a 1 year warranty on warping and lifetime on cracking (within the minimal thickness) on my Premier series rotors. Other companies only offer less than a year or 30 days.

You can pay a lot of credit to where the rotors came from, but that’s just half it. To be honest with you, no brake company that sells to the public actually "makes their own rotors". We all have other companies that only distribute make the casting, which is how the rotor business works. Not even Brembo, which their castings are made elsewhere. Brembos are made with a cast iron grade of g3000 which is the same grade metal as my E-line series rotors. Zimmerman is not made from Italy anymore because of cost. Centric does not make rotor castings. Centric is no different than R1 Concepts or any other brake company.

The impact that Centric has on the brake rotor industry is their buy-in power and their innovative part# system. Before there was aamco universal part number system. Everybody uses these numbers to categorize brake rotor castings until when centric came out with their own system. Mostly everyone is now switching over to centric system because it is easier to use (each number and position has a meaning to what vehicle the rotors belong to).