Brake failure - totalled my MS3
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Very unfortunate about your car.............. glad to know you're ok, especially after I saw that car, it looked like it was 15-20 feet in the air........
in the event you decide to race again......... you should check this out.
http://www.snapoffracing.com/forums/editorials/4058-getting_on_track.html
(you should be able to view the thread as a guest, but feel free to sign up if you want)
I'm also very very surprised that you didn't have a tech inspection performed on your car, I thought they were required to do that before allowing you to race on the track?
in the event you decide to race again......... you should check this out.
http://www.snapoffracing.com/forums/editorials/4058-getting_on_track.html
(you should be able to view the thread as a guest, but feel free to sign up if you want)
I'm also very very surprised that you didn't have a tech inspection performed on your car, I thought they were required to do that before allowing you to race on the track?
Have you been to a track where they actually performed a thorough tech inspection?
Most inspections are half ass......... if they had checked both pads, YES they would have seen that the other one was dangerously low.
a real tech inspection at a GOOD track will throw your car on a lift so they can walk around under it as well....... most places just walk around your car to make sure you have a roll cage, roll bar, blah blah blah. They're not REAL tech inspections.
No. The tech inspects I've been through (open track days) have been very breif- check to see if the battery is secured, throttle return spring, tires aren't corded, all lug nuts are there (don't check to see if they are tight), no massive fluid leaks, interior is cleaned out, seat belts work, brake pedal holds pressure, steering feels normal. And at that inspection (Hallett Motor Racing Circuit), that was an annual tech. They let the burden of keeping the vehicle in working order fall on the driver. Annual techs have been a hotly debated subject in and around SCCA for awhile.
I believe a tech inspect on a race car for SCCA is more thorough. But even then, it's an annual tech and alot can change between the beginning of the season and the end of the season.
I believe a tech inspect on a race car for SCCA is more thorough. But even then, it's an annual tech and alot can change between the beginning of the season and the end of the season.
even with an annual tech you can still have them perform a thorough inspection on your car. I guess they get so many people on the open track days they're just lazy. if you're in a club and you do a club day at a GOOD track they'll do a more thorough inspection for you.
Stamperman
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Been there, done that. 1990 I flipped my 1989 Pontiac LeMans (aks Korean built Opel Kadet) over at an Auto-X. My motto after that, don't race a car that the bank owns.
Very first post in this thread.
flipstylex
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ouch...sorry to see your ride get tottaled.. i hope u can recover physically and mentally 
..anyways, darn....why does it have to be cosmic blue !!! ..Now i know what my ms3 look like if i ever total it that bad :-(
with that said, i wonder how many cosmic blue speed 3's are left..... since they will now discontinue this color .....
..anyways, darn....why does it have to be cosmic blue !!! ..Now i know what my ms3 look like if i ever total it that bad :-(with that said, i wonder how many cosmic blue speed 3's are left..... since they will now discontinue this color .....
Young Roids
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About 2499.
HELL yes....... lol if you're gonna race make sure it's a car that's been paid for, and cheaply one at that. Example...... you can get a Nissan 240sx s13 fastback these days for like 1000 or less, and do a few engine suspension and brake mods to that and have a nice little car to track with for under 5k (thumb)
AllLostThings
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Holy F dude!!!!!!...at least you're ok.
glad to hear you are okay.
I've read through all 10 pages, and see many misinformed posts.
Hawk HPS is a high performance STREET pad. not a track pad. HPS might b okay for low weight / low power / novice drivers on track. but should never be used on a high speed track / high power / nose heavy / heavy car like MS3. what you need is a better track pad, not the other way around.
inner pads wears faster is most likely due to heat. inner pads runs hotter (out pads gets better cooling), and wear faster. fix is either a brake duct or more heat-tolerant (higher MOT) brake pads. ie. track pads.
one of favorite pads in Spec Miata is Carbotech. one poster mentioned Bobcat (it is still a little better than HPS), but top Spec Miata guys runs XP12 on the front. and this is on a much lighter car with less power.
in Carbotech, it goes from street to full race:
Bobcat
AX6
XP8
XP10
XP12
XP16
in Hawk pads, HPS is down on the pole, like Bobcat. Hawk has higher MOT pads like black, blue, HTC10, DTC60, DTC70 and many more that's more track oriented.
so if spec Miata guy is on XP12, think what a 50% heavier, 100% more power car should use.
I've read through all 10 pages, and see many misinformed posts.
Hawk HPS is a high performance STREET pad. not a track pad. HPS might b okay for low weight / low power / novice drivers on track. but should never be used on a high speed track / high power / nose heavy / heavy car like MS3. what you need is a better track pad, not the other way around.
inner pads wears faster is most likely due to heat. inner pads runs hotter (out pads gets better cooling), and wear faster. fix is either a brake duct or more heat-tolerant (higher MOT) brake pads. ie. track pads.
one of favorite pads in Spec Miata is Carbotech. one poster mentioned Bobcat (it is still a little better than HPS), but top Spec Miata guys runs XP12 on the front. and this is on a much lighter car with less power.
in Carbotech, it goes from street to full race:
Bobcat
AX6
XP8
XP10
XP12
XP16
in Hawk pads, HPS is down on the pole, like Bobcat. Hawk has higher MOT pads like black, blue, HTC10, DTC60, DTC70 and many more that's more track oriented.
so if spec Miata guy is on XP12, think what a 50% heavier, 100% more power car should use.
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fourthmeal
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Also, wanted to correct some information with proof regarding the issue of ABS activation when the DSC/TCS system is forced off...
I purposely hit some rough roads with this off, and verified that the ABS system does work. However, the vehicle stability features (variable corner braking, engine throttle management, etc.) are truly disabled, and the rear end will come around quickly. The lines also widen while turning aggressively, probably due to the corner-braking feature being disabled.
The mystery of the vehicle stability is still just that though.
I purposely hit some rough roads with this off, and verified that the ABS system does work. However, the vehicle stability features (variable corner braking, engine throttle management, etc.) are truly disabled, and the rear end will come around quickly. The lines also widen while turning aggressively, probably due to the corner-braking feature being disabled.
The mystery of the vehicle stability is still just that though.
AtenzaNY62
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that looks horrible, glad you are ok man...
